Posted by Retired kings under 16 stay alive as sub-males

Skulleh[LDC][LL] (#23147)

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Posted on
2014-08-17 06:26:31
One thing I don't understand, is that when you retire early... your lion actually /dies/? I think it'd be nice if you could keep your previous king alive, in your pride as a sub-male if you choose to retire early. That way, you can still get a few years with them being alive.

Also, what if you decide AFTER retiring that you'd rather have your old king back, such as if you didn't realize that your lion's level and impression would reset? You could retire this new king and re-place your old king as your heir, and you'd have him back.

Plus it'd be nice for pride stories, such as one lion stepping down and passing kingship onto the next male, but still living. I just find it kinda sad that your old lion actually /dies/ when you retire him. I mean, when an old person IRL 'retires', it doesn't mean that they die, right?



This suggestion has 116 supports and 38 NO supports.



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Zevruu (#2603)

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Posted on
2014-08-17 11:36:32
Guys, I think you're sort of missing the point of the suggestions board.

This is a place for suggestions that one might come up with. It is their opinion, and they will try to back it up.

Some people may back up their suggestions more ferociously than others, and some may just let it be.

Some people get angrier more quickly than others, and may even snap if they think it will get their point across.

While this may seem -pointless,- it is a suggestion nonetheless. And we all know how often suggestions from this board get put into the game.

Retiring your king for him to stay as a sub male could work, but mostly if he could just never be king.. Or maybe even be able to be changed into a female, to prevent it from becoming a king.



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Skulleh[LDC][LL] (#23147)

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Posted on
2014-08-17 11:53:26
"Lets say someone makes a 3 year old lion king with 600 stats . With leveling and such and maybe a few egg yolks, when he's retired at age 12 with 800 stats . Since he's only 12, he stays in the pride . The cooldown until males can retire for 10 GB again is only 30 days, the player decides to keep and stat said lion until the cool down is gone and said lion ends up 1000 stats . The male is reused and therefore deaged back down to 8 years old with 1000 stats . If they plan correctly, they can continue to do this, over and over again and as Nat said end up with 10k + stats !"

Ugh. NO. How many times do I have to say that your ex-king will NOT be aged back down upon retaining kingship?

PLEASE stop saying that! You're completely contradicting what I said!

"The male is reused and therefore deaged back down to 8 years old with 1000 stats . " is INCORRECT and INVALID as I have said /multiple/ times, because no, he would NOT be de-aged back to 8! A king that has been king before will NEVER be able to de-age, EVER, even if they become king again. They will stay the SAME age as they were before becoming king again.

PLEASE listen to my posts and READ them before making the same exact statement that I de-bunked countless times!



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Edited on 17/08/14 by TzoranTheLion[LDC][LL] (#23147)

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Dragon (#29180)

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Posted on
2014-08-17 12:17:04
Sooo... let me understand this. Your old king wouldn't age down to 8 but would still be on the cusp of retiring (again) after being made king... again? o.O Why on earth would anyone do that? o.O Speaking for those that don't have the GB to retire early...

I'm not really understanding the point of your suggestion if the kings don't age down... because.. it just seems like a big hassle and cluster fudge.. excuse my lewdness :x




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Skulleh[LDC][LL] (#23147)

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Posted on
2014-08-17 12:23:19
-Shrug- Just for people who WANT their kings to still be alive, whether they plan on making them king again or not... just like any other sub-male.

However, if the player were to suddenly decide that they liked their old king better and wanted him back(assuming they retired early..), they COULD have the option of making him king again, but of course he wouldn't age down to prevent cheating, he'd be the same age. .-. So like, if he was 5 when he was retired, and he was off the throne for two years(turning 7), he would remain at age 7 when made king. Same if he was 12 when made king again.



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Posted on
2014-08-18 04:02:32
What you're suggesting there would just be too much hassle in terms of coding, not to mention that as has been proved here, nobody really wants their old kings in their pride. What we have works and doesn't need changing.



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3ros cel (#32469)

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Posted on
2014-08-18 04:06:30
No support for reasons previously stated, sorry. It seems too much a hassle for nothing but sentimental value, imho.



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Croatoan (#34624)

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Posted on
2014-08-18 04:12:30
No support for reasons previously stated, sorry.



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shaggy [g1 lilac] (#32996)

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Posted on
2014-08-18 04:23:27
I will support just so long as your old king can't become king again.



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Nym (#191)

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Posted on
2014-08-18 04:24:21

No support.




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Nny (#257)

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Posted on
2014-08-18 05:24:54
Nada from me. :c
It seems like something that wouldn't help the game at all and is just used by people who want their lions forever since they could just lock their now retired king on their side and let him take over again sometime later, thus by repeating the process they can keep him alive forever.

-I have not read comments yet so I shall edit this when I read them should what I stated already been said by someone else :3-



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Drakel [Ebony Boyo] (#12615)

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Posted on
2014-10-17 08:06:12
No support. It would take a lot of coding and memory space for people to be able to do this, especially if the game needed to tag each old king as 'un-de-age-able' or however one would word that afterwords. It wouldn't really be feasible.

Everyone can have up to 5 male slots and 2 accounts. That means the game would have to tag at maximum 10 males per person as having been previous kings (since it would need to tag them us not able to be de-aged.) Even if each person saved only 1 previous king in this way, it would likely be more than the site could handle at the moment. And that's beside how complicated this would be to code (it would be very complicated, needless to say.)

Its just a ton of work to put into a nostalgic whim. Honestly, you could just RP that the King didn't really die and go from there. That's what I'm doing for my retired guy, anyway.

Aside, would the old kings be sale-able? Because that's another can of worms, either way. If they are sale-able, the game would have to publically mark that they were previously kings somewhere, and levelling kings for other players would probably become a thing. If they weren't sale-able, that's another bit of data that would have to be attached to each retired male, which would again be rather problematic.



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ChaosDeath🐱 (#2790)

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Posted on
2014-10-17 08:41:40
"Lets say someone makes a 3 year old lion king with 600 stats . With leveling and such and maybe a few egg yolks, when he's retired at age 12 with 800 stats . Since he's only 12, he stays in the pride . The cooldown until males can retire for 10 GB again is only 30 days, the player decides to keep and stat said lion until the cool down is gone and said lion ends up 1000 stats . The male is reused and therefore deaged back down to 8 years old with 1000 stats . If they plan correctly, they can continue to do this, over and over again and as Nat said end up with 10k + stats !"

Ugh. NO. How many times do I have to say that your ex-king will NOT be aged back down upon retaining kingship?

PLEASE stop saying that! You're completely contradicting what I said!

"The male is reused and therefore deaged back down to 8 years old with 1000 stats . " is INCORRECT and INVALID as I have said /multiple/ times, because no, he would NOT be de-aged back to 8! A king that has been king before will NEVER be able to de-age, EVER, even if they become king again. They will stay the SAME age as they were before becoming king again.

PLEASE listen to my posts and READ them before making the same exact statement that I de-bunked countless times!

Except that's not how the system works, so they'd have to make brand new coding for this. Just to have them die in less than a year anyway. As a sub male, they could die that very day because of age anyway if you didn't retire early.

No support, sorry.



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Whispermouse (#42554)

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Posted on
2014-10-17 10:29:53
Simply make it so a previous king could not return to power, then you don't have this ruined economy?



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Momma Jelly (#51159)

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Posted on
2016-11-29 06:25:47
I don't Support. It can ruin the stats of sub males being sold. You retire and he stays. Let's say you have him at 14 years. You sell him or give him to your side. Make him the new king there and repeat.



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Posted on
2016-11-29 06:40:46
I'd support this but only if the king being retired is under 16 yrs old, all lions on Lioden die at 15-16 yrs so it wouldn't make sense to add years to his life.

Also if the retired king cannot be made king again, that wouldn't work for multiple reasons I'm sure have already been discussed.


The idea of crowning your new king but having your old king around as a sub if he has a few years of life left so that he can live them out is a nice idea imo. As long as the safeguards mentioned are in place.



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