Posted by Mutations; Just a pretty, or not so pretty face.

Lady Bacon (#6605)

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2014-11-26 13:40:34

At the moment, Mutations are just something to look at. Which seems a damn shame to me to have such an awesome feature, that has such little effect on gameplay.

I'd like to see mutations mean more in this game, especially breed-wise. As far as I'm aware and have been told,(and from experience) breeding from mutations does not increase your chance of getting a mutation.

That makes zero sense to me. At all. Breeding from mutated stock should At least increase the chances, or pass rate if not dominant then recessive

Humankind has created an army of domesticated mutants in all domestic and some not so domestic species, through selective breeding. Not necessarily freaky mutations, though to be honest the firsts of different coat types and such would of seemed crazy at the time it occurred.

Anyway back to my point.

I would like, when breeding from mutated stock, an increase in chance of the offspring being mutated.

I am not asking for it to be a 100% guaranteed mutant, or even a super high chance just a Slightly increased chance like with very low fertility lionesses!

And maybe the more mutated history the greater the chance, for example if they have both parents mutated, and grand parents it would be a higher chance. Which would be a mission to get that kind of heritage.

This would also depend on the mutations aswell, the more 'rarer' mutations would be recessive and less likely to pop up. Not saying all mutations will produce more of their own mutations either. Just a slightly increased chance Also to keep 'rarer' mutations rare, maybe a higher chance of passing 'lethal genes' when breeding rarer muties.

Perhaps their could be a system implemented like so,

as it stands:

-The lower the fertility the higher the chance (Unsure of how much your chance increases)

-GMO cow less than 100% chance but more than 50%

I would like to see this:

-Mutated parent(s) would be maybe a 3-5% chance increase? (Also depending if one or both parents! Daddy's freaky genes should count too!)

-Mutated parent with a Very low fertility maybe a 6-8% chance increase? or slightly higher but higher chance of lethals.

-Mutated parent + GMO maybe a slightly higher chance than the GMO But with a VERY high lethal chance.
* Common Mutes & rarer mutes would have a different % with rarer less of a chance, and higher chance of a lethal

They don't have to even be that big of a % chance increase. Even if it was what I suggested, Still a small chance!

But as a risk from breeding from mutated stock, maybe an also increased chance of a lethal mutation cubs? Especially with heavy mutant heritages..

And as an afterthought, perhaps breeding certain different types of mutations together would lead to the discovery of new mutations (perhaps related to the originals perhaps not) It'd be quite a challenge figuring what mutant combos make a new mutation and even then they would not 100% guarantee the new mute.. or a mute at all

It makes sense doesn't it? How come very low fertility has more of a chance but an actual mutant doesn't??

This would also help add to the market value of mutants aswell, I think people would love them alot more if their cutie-muties had a chance to pass it on!

Please note: I AM TALKING ABOUT A SLIGHT INCREASE IN CHANCE. Eg a normal average lioness gives you a say, 1% chance, a mutated lioness would be a 3% or something like that, this is NOT going to make the market explode like GMOs, especially if the chance for lethals from mutants is higher.. It'd just be an INCREASED chance like Very low fertility lionesses, just slightly better as they already have the freaky genes. Even when people use GMOS which are 50%+ chance PLENTY of people still don't get mutations, heck ive seen cases where people use 3 GMOs in a row and get nothing, so please don't tell me a small % increase not even a quarter of the GMO is going to make mutations common

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By Magikovu ~ IO (#24258)
common mutes should have a higher chance of producing the /same/ mutation. And different mutations should have a higher chance of producing a lethal mutation.

Ie Folded x Folded = Higher chance of folded, though slim chance of anything else. But say Mane Silky X Achromia = slim chance for either parental mutation, & higher chance of lethal, simply because of increased changes to genetic code.

By Sherlock Holmes, Coconut #16192
If muties had a chance, even a slight chance, of passing mutations, people might be more likely to keep their mutants rather than selling them because they're actually USEFUL for something. This would HELP the mutation market more than it would hinder it.



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Edited on 30/12/14 by Lady Bacon (#6605)

Lady Bacon (#6605)

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2014-11-26 13:54:34
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2014-11-26 14:02:00
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Cerebus (#38409)

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2014-11-26 14:05:43
God, yes!!

I bred my Mane Fluffy to a Melanism, and walked out with no mutation. It's frustrating!

I would like to see a bit more realism behind the mutations. Such as:

It's a proven fact that lionesses prefer a male lion with a darker, larger mane. So, Maneless mutated males should have a lesser chance of getting NCLs. (20-40% less)

Overgrown Teeth and Claws ladies/men should have an easier time hunting/fighting.
Males with Overgrown Claws/Teeth should have a larger chance of winning a battle with 'Swipe' and 'Bite' due to their mutation.
Females with Overgrown Claws/Teeth should have an easier time hunting.



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Edited on 26/11/14 by The Devil's Due CC l IC (#38409)

Lady Bacon (#6605)

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2014-11-26 14:18:04
Ah I know your pain! D;

Bred and achromia x achromia and many other pairings.. nothing.

many people charge extra for mutant studs too even though they don't effect the chance at all :/


I would like to see more effects from the mutations as well, but those kinda things would be a bit harder to integrate maybe. Especially since in the wild its highly likely most mutations would be killed at birth since that's how nature does.

at the moment im really just focused on seeing muties mean something breedwise. It bothers me alot VL ferts have an increased chance but not actual mutes..



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ashlynr (#38199)

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2014-11-26 14:25:03
I do not agree because then the game would be over run by these mutes.



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Wade Wilson 💩 (#16192)

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2014-11-26 14:25:48
Support, and, just to note... Tsavo manes are a mutation in real life and a perfect example of this happening IRL. Maybe not ALL mutations are genetic, but several are and tend to pass within families.

The only thing is, it would make mutations more common, which can damage the market a bit, but since we already have the GMO cow doing that, what damage can a handful more muties cause?



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Edited on 26/11/14 by Sherlock Holmes, Coconut {PPP} (#16192)

Lady Bacon (#6605)

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2014-11-26 14:27:16
Um @Ash did you read what I wrote???

It would be a slight increase in chance

Like if a normal lioness gives you a 1% chance of a mute, a mutated lion would give you 3% chance...

The gmos do far more damage than this EVER would.



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Lady Bacon (#6605)

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2014-11-26 14:30:27
Sherlock (Love your name xD )


Im not asking for a huge chance increase, just a small one. So you still probably dont have that big of a chance to be honest...

and if theyre trying mutants and get lethals.... well they will be dead so cant affect the market, and GMOs have done way more damage xD



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cheetah >.< (#38280)

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2014-11-26 14:30:51
I support because breeding muties is really hard and this will create it so that it is more accurate but a tad less difficult while still having it be a goal that has to have work put into it :)



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Lady Bacon (#6605)

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2014-11-26 14:32:01
Thank you Cheetah! ^__^;

I completely agree, it'd make muties less useless, but you're still not getting a huge advantages, Especially if you're getting lethal cubs ._.



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○Hana○ (#39658)

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2014-11-26 14:32:10
support, I would breed more mutes just for them but like, I can barely get them! xD So I just sell them when I get them. they sexy.



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Lady Bacon (#6605)

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2014-11-26 14:33:54
Maple xD

I love the mutes, I had a little natural born floppy ear (My first natural mutant, and ive been trying since they were released O_O )

but its sad because it's like "you're so cute.... but so damn useless..."



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Tasha (#39574)

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2014-11-26 14:34:01
Support! I want at least a few more muties and this won't break the system or anything.



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2014-11-26 14:35:56
Support. I'd like to see a touch more realism in how mutations affect genetics. Like common mutes should have a higher chance of producing the /same/ mutation. And different mutations should have a higher chance of producing a lethal mutation.

Ie Folded x Folded = Higher chance of folded, though slim chance of anything else. But say Mane Silky X Achromia = slim chance for either parental mutation, & higher chance of lethal, simply because of increased changes to genetic code.



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Wade Wilson 💩 (#16192)

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2014-11-26 14:36:32
Thank you Lady~ And yes, I know, as long as it's just a small chance, especially with the lethal mutations, it's really not that bad.

Maple actually brings up a good point, though. If muties had a chance, even a slight chance, of passing mutations, people might be more likely to keep their mutants rather than selling them because they're actually USEFUL for something. This would HELP the mutation market more than it would hinder it. I hadn't thought about it like that.



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