Posted by High/Low Karma Shops [100+ Supports!]

Kamme [HM/Side] (#57143)

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2015-08-30 14:03:15
This idea came to me while looking through some of the other suggestions. I tried searching some keywords, but I'm still not sure if this has been suggested before, so forgive me if it has.
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I was thinking- won't it be cool to have something that makes it worth getting to the highest level of karma? Sure, we have the karma-specific encounters in Explore, but that's not really a reward to get to the /highest/ level. For impression, you have the ability to enter the lioness raffle, and for levels, you have the ability to enter new explore regions. But other then some encounters, there is nothing for karma.

My suggestion is to have small, karma specific shops open at the "Deathlord of the Jungle" and "King of the Jungle" karma levels. They would be very small, with only a bit of "nice guy" decor in the good shop and "bad guy" decor in the evil shop. In other words, you could decorate your lion as his karma branch. I'm thinking everything in the store would be for SB, just like the Monkey. Existing or new decors could be used, but existing might cause some problems if they're event decor.

Pros:
-Would give a reward for being the highest or lowest karma level.
-Would stimulate trade between players as people with low karma want high karma items and vise versa.
-Would add more of a point to karma.

Cons
-If new decor is used, it would be a lot of new art
-Would leave out people who like to keep their karma neutral or at a level that is not the extremes,

What do you think? If you don't support, I would love to hear why. Also, if you have any suggestions, I would love to hear those as well ^^

Suggestions:

-Cloutier (#53663) brought to my attention that event titles are a thing, and the way I worded my suggestion might make it seem as if people who pay to use them are left out. In clarification, what opens the store is your karma number (the one the snake gives you), not your actual title.

-Arlan (#32702) suggested that, when poses are introduced, you could unlock/buy a King or Deathlord specific pose from the respective shops in addition to the decor.

-angelcookiexx1 (#60501) suggested that there could be a few items that rotate through the stores, so there would be different things every so often.

-Kitty - The XYLAX SLAVE (#40439) suggested that once you hit certain levels of karma you get a special decor. One for evil, and one for good.

-Evagoblin (#3204) suggested that once you unlock a shop, it stays unlocked as long as your karma qualifies as that (Like, if you were like, really evil, like -1000 karma, and you changed your ways and became good and got like 200+ karma, it would close, but if you were still at like -100 karma, it would stay open.)


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This suggestion has 203 supports and 1 NO support.



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Edited on 18/09/15 @ 00:04:45 by Kamme [Keys] (#57143)

Ashiya (#53663)

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2015-08-30 14:08:33
I'm on the fence - Here's why.

I LOVE this idea! It adds a reward - as you said - for taking the time and energy to actually make it all the way up the karma chain. However. . .

People who like to use titles they bought in event shops are severely getting skipped out on. So, they have to pay to get two shops taken away from them? Not cool.

How about the shops depend on your amount (number, I guess - what the snake tells you cx) of good / bad karma as opposed to having the titles.



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Kamme [HM/Side] (#57143)

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2015-08-30 14:20:01
@Clouder-
Thanks for bringing this to my attention, I actually forgot all about event titles! The karma number was what I was thinking of, I just wasn't sure what the exact numbers are for the highest levels, so I used titles as a way differentiate. I'll add a clarification down at the bottom.



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MaeBae (#8161)

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2015-08-30 14:36:07
I like this! It acts as an SB sink as well as gives more of a reason to go after karma! It kind of also influences player to player trading!



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Kimiko Kyuuketsuki (#32476)

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2015-08-30 14:39:01
this would be really cool I think. and you could easily change your karma to get into either shop.




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Arlan (#32702)

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2015-08-30 14:55:43
This karma shop idea sounds like it has a lot of potential. Besides decor, when/if they introduce poses it would be awesome if you could unlock like an ultimate King/ Deathlord specific pose.



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Kamme [HM/Side] (#57143)

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2015-08-30 14:59:10
@Arlan
That's a great idea! For the Deathlord, if could be smashing the skulls of your enemies or something. XD

@Others
Thanks you for your support :3



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angelcookiexx1 (#60501)

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2015-08-30 15:09:21
seems like a good idea. I also think the decor could change every day or week so there is different stuff to choose from and they could add better stuff on holidays ^-^ like a limited offer for Christmas or something like that.



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Ashiya (#53663)

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2015-08-30 15:15:42
@Angelcookie > Now, I don't see that happening! New decor every week is a lot to ask from our lovely Lioden artists - And holidays aren't exactly universal, excluding the birthdays of the admins.

However, something along the lines of "7 decor that switches every day" would bring more value to each thing - as someone can't log on on their day off and buy every decor. Even then, this isn't necessary or needed.



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angelcookiexx1 (#60501)

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2015-08-30 15:21:31
Not saying it should be new but a few things to switch out every now an then/everyday would be nice and i didn't think about the holiday universal thing at the moment XD i see your point.



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Zora (#3204)

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2015-08-30 15:39:55
I'm not sure about this.

It seems like a good idea, but getting higher karma is notoriously harder than getting bad karma (At least from what I've heard) Not to mention that having that "King of the Jungle" title is difficult if you post a lot in the boards, since that will change your title.

Correct me if I'm wrong on any of this



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FoolsgoldFenrir (#27778)

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2015-08-30 15:43:13
Ooh, that'd be awesome! Maybe for Deathlord of the Jungle, you can buy an attacking pose for you lion, and a sitting pose for King of the JUngle. And maybe if the admins want to add a large update at some point (like maybe next year when there isn't a whole lot of new things to add) there can be karma for lionesses (you can maybe explore with lionesses too?) and buy poses for their karma levels? And you know how we have cub poses for 10 GB in the Oasis? Maybe we can add karma poses for our main males for 10 GB as well? Or maybe if it's only one pose, 5 GB?



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Edited on 30/08/15 by Simba the Fluffy Lion (EL) (#27778)

Kamme [HM/Side] (#57143)

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2015-08-31 02:50:08
@angelcookie- I agree with Clouter in that having the decor switch every day or week would be a lot of work for the artists, but maybe having a few special edition decors in the shops would be nice. Similar to how sometimes things show up for a day in the Monkey. :3

@Evaglobin I was not aware that getting good karma was a significantly harder than bad karma. I have never heard it anywhere else before, but it's definitely possible. I don't think it would effect much for this idea, however, since there would be both a shop for bad and good karma.
As for titles effecting forum posting, the only effect I know of is that is displays your karma title under your name. I believe is does this for all titles, so I don't quite understand why having "King of the Jungle" ot any other karma title under your name makes it hard. Correct me if there is something I forgot. I have "King of the Jungle" myself and I've never had any problems in the forums.

@Simba- Those are all very good ideas! They are bit out of the scope of this suggestion, however, so I don't think I will add them to the bottom. But those are definitely things that would be really cool if they were implemented! :3



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Zora (#3204)

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2015-08-31 10:10:23
I think you misunderstood. Sometimes you'll get titles if you post a lot (Such as "Famous" "Sociable" etc.) and while those don't affect your karma, if the shops would only be open to people with "King of the Jungle" title, a lot of people would be left out.

And I think the "King of the Jungle" title unlocks at like, 1000 Karma (Again I could be totally wrong) Even for people like me who have 500+ karma, reaching the shop would be near impossible.



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Kamme [HM/Side] (#57143)

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2015-08-31 10:29:11
@Evaglobin
I see. Cloutier has the same worry, and I know my wording might lend itself so that people with titles other than Karma titles are left out, but that was not my original intention. My original intention was for the karma /number/ to open to the store, not the title itself. I was just unsure about the number the highest/lowest karma title unlocks at, so I used titles instead. I added a clarification at the bottom in the suggestions, but I know it's easy to miss.
That is one downside. I know some people like to keep their karma at a specific level for the title, and they would be left out if they continued to do that. However, I don't think it would be impossible for you to open the store. It would take time and dedication, but I think it can be done.



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2015-08-31 14:15:49
I slightly agree with this.. I more thing that once you hit certain levels of karma you get a special decor..

Like an evil decor for evil karma, and good decor for good karma.



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