Another thing I've seen more of recently is people offering things for sale, usually on threads where the OP is looking for specific items, saying that they'll sell it to them for whatever amount of SB/GB because it's the 'lowest price', so it seems like a good deal. In actual fact when you check trades and branches it turns out there are loads of the same item for sale much cheaper.

Whether that's dishonest or just careless probably depends on the player concerned, but to be safe just remember to check for yourself what an item is currently selling for - don't just take someone's word for it!

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Hello! I just wanted to remind everyone that there is a 'Bump Thread!' button (below the reply box) for pushing threads up to the top of the Recent Activity feed as well as the forum category it is in. Please use this button in the future to prevent flooding this thread with 'bump' posts.

Thank you!

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Thank you ^-^
(Will start pressing th button)

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I've seen plenty of buyout scams where people throw a GB into a trade buyout/branch price. I always bury my GB so I can't accidentally send them to someone or buy something for way more than I intended.

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Wondering if it'd be possible to sticky this thread, since it's got some very helpful tips for new members. If it's getting bumped down now and again, new members won't be aware of it.

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-- Just in case no other staff member has stated this... --

In the event that you send your lion away and someone decides to steal/keep it, we will not get involved further than contacting the other party and suggesting lightly that perhaps giving it back would be the right thing to do. If they refuse this, there's nothing we can do, and we won't twist anybody's arms.

An example:
LionLover333 sends her lioness Nala to Simba123 for a "traditional breeding". ("Traditional breedings" are NOT protected, nor site-supported methods of breeding, they are entirely use-at-your-own-risk)
Simba123 decides he wants to keep Nala, and ignores all of LionLover333's messages.
LionLover333 contacts the modbox and says that Simba123 has stolen her lioness Nala and she wants her back, she asks us for help.
We tell LionLover333 that we can't force Simba123 to send back Nala because she was sent over in a method of breeding that we don't protect. We tell LionLover333 that the most we can do is contact Simba123 and suggest he give Nala back.
We contact Simba123 and tell him that LionLover333 is upset over the transaction and would like her lioness back. We tell him that giving Nala back would be a good idea and would be a good thing to do, but this choice is entirely up to him.

Good situation: Simba123 sends Nala back to LionLover333 and she refrains from conducting promise-based transactions (like "traditional breeding") in the future, to avoid being scammed.

Bad situation: Simba123 refuses to send Nala back, and we're forced to wash our hands of the matter. LionLover333 is mad and upset that she lost a good lioness. Hopefully she will refuse any promise-based transactions in the future.

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Thanks for explaining it clay c: Should we move this thread to user guides or..?

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Another good suggestion is that mutations are not breedable like markings or bases. If you breed a Melanism to a Melanism, that DOES NOT produce Melanism cubs. I see people charging boatloads for studding just cuz their cruddy looking boy has Folded Ears or something and people are like "OMG maybe I can get Foldie babies cuz he's a Foldie!" NO. YOU CAN'T. The chance of a mutie is completely random. It's higher if you have a VLF gal, or use a GMO Cow or Lion Meat, and a mutie mom COULD make a mutie cub, but it is in NO WAY "breedable." Please spread the word of that, I just saw something like that in Sales Chat <3

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^ Bump ^ These are all very good points and we need to spread the word so no one is scammed or mislead

Also a side note to anyone new Do not buy the 1gb for 150sb trade in the Oasis you can easily get 1000sb + in the trading center for 1gb :-)

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Yaaaas Vancha dear, that is genius! I always thought that button was dumb, I think we need to get rid of it XP

And what aquariummagic said on page 4, those trades that are like "Celestial cub!" When the cub has Speckles at like 2 percent -________- I hate that! If a trade says "Lilac Lioness!" Make sure that it's not just a Mongoose NCL looking thing with Lilac Pelage at 5%. Make sure she is Lilac BASED, NOT MARKED. Those are very misleading. Or you could just search for the base and prevent that xD but bewaaaare the scammers!

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The traditional breeding is one I don't do at all. I just either
A)Breed my lionesses to my current king or
B)Breed my lionesses to another king(Studding)

And you get to keep your lioness in your pride, with no risk of another user stealing/keeping them!

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This was nice of you to put up! Hopefully more people read this. :3

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Another one I see often, people will say things in ads like "Lilac mother/father/grandfather".

Lioden genetics ONLY uses what the lion itself has. If a non lilac based cub has a lilac mother the cub's future offspring will only get the bases that the mother and father throw out. They won't magically be lilac. The parents/grandparents of a lion have 0 effect on the offspring that lion can produce.

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I'll bookmark this for later use, thank you!

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