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 🐆 faerie {FROZEN - DM SIDE!} (#112180) 
View Forum Posts  Posted on 2017-05-24 15:44:52 |
According to the Wiki, "Rosettes seem to be the most popular marking on Lioden currently, due to the mysterious nature of how they're passed on, and the fact that they can randomly pop up in any breeding. There are tons of user theories and conspiracies floating around regarding how Rosette works, but nobody truly knows—the code has yet to be cracked." This could be taken to imply that they are truly random ("the fact that they can randomly pop up in any breeding"), but it can also imply that there is, in fact, a code ("the code has yet to be cracked"). ----- Exhibit A: Cream Rosette Mother was chased, but had the following: Base: Cream (White Nose) Mane Type: Normal Mane Color: Brown Eye Color: Grey Slot 1: Onyx Ripple Slot 2: Chocolate Top Slot 6: Feline 7 Black Dad had the following: Base: Silver Grey (White Nose) Mane Type: Sideburn Mane Color: Lilac Eye Color: Lavender Slot 1: Feline 1 Dark Brown Slot 2: White Tips Slot 3: Feline 2 Onyx Slot 4: Feline 6 Onyx Slot 5: Feline 4 Onyx Slot 6: Feline 1 Onyx Slot 8: White Undercoat Slot 9: Feline 3 Onyx Slot 10: Onyx Lace ----- Exhibit B: Gold Rosette Mom had the following: Base: Dark Vanilla (Fallow Nose) Mane Type: Diabolic Mane Color: Lilac Eye Color: Pink Slot 1: Brown Mask Slot 4: Feline 6 Dark Brown Slot 5: Feline 4 Onyx Dad had the following: Base: Blush Rose (White Nose) Mane Type: Diabolic Mane Color: Manakbir Eye Color: Peach Slot 1: Feline 7 Ginger Slot 2: Feline 1 Black Slot 3: Rose Pelage Slot 4: Maroon Pelage Slot 5: Onyx Lace Slot 6: Feline 4 Silver Slot 7: Feline 2 Ginger Slot 8: White Panther Slot 9: Under White 4 Slot 10: Feline 3 Onyx ----- Exhibit C: Brown Rosette Mom had the following: Base: Dun (White Nose) Mane Type: Tsavo Mane Color: Maroon Eye Color: White Slot 1: White Cobweb Slot 6: Vitiligo 3 Slot 7: Vitiligo 2 Slot 9: Vitiligo 4 Dad had the Following: Base: Onyx (Brown Nose) Mane Type: Savage Mane Color: Unholy Eye Color: Saffron Slot 4: Feline 6 Onyx Slot 5: Feline 2 Onyx Slot 6: Feline 1 Onyx Slot 7: Feline 7 Onyx Slot 8: Feline 5 Onyx Slot 9: Feline 3 Onyx Slot 10: Feline 4 Onyx Do you see a pattern? I do. Every. Single. Father. Has. At. Least. One. Feline. Marking. See it? Maybe parents with Feline markings produce rosettes, but it's rare. Credit: Empress Tansy (#54105)  7 players like this post! Like? Edited on 02/09/18 @ 10:03:23 by starfruit [with a lowercase s] (#112180) |
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🐆 faerie {FROZEN - DM SIDE!} (#112180)
View Forum Posts Posted on 2017-05-24 15:55:02 |
Rosettes: Cream Rosette- https://www.lioden.com/lion.php?id=794110126088 Gold Rosette- https://www.lioden.com/lion.php?id=794110803233 Brown Rosette- https://www.lioden.com/lion.php?id=794110835361 0 players like this post! Like? |
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Kanada (#93101)
King of the Jungle View Forum Posts Posted on 2017-05-24 16:00:23 |
Huh! This is pretty interesting. I myself have a Cream Rosette, and her father has a Feline marking. https://www.lioden.com/lion.php?id=794110631382 here she is Though, I'm not sure if this applies to every rosette lion/lioness out there. But it's a cool theory! 0 players like this post! Like? |
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Raina Chiaki (#54236)
King of the Jungle View Forum Posts Posted on 2017-05-24 16:09:53 |
Makes some sense. I have 2 (Brown and an onyx) Rosettes on my side that came from this king and a double feline lady https://www.lioden.com/lion.php?id=794109608307 and https://www.lioden.com/lion.php?id=794110673733 The only other rosette I have that did not have a feline nor rosy dad has an unknown mother 0 players like this post! Like? |
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The Cackling Lummox (#275)
Devastator View Forum Posts Posted on 2017-05-24 16:17:45 |
While I've never bred a rosette from scratch, so I don't have any info to add to your theory in that way, I can throw some potential references for how feline affects it's passing from another rosette. This girl with F2O has given me a triple and a double just in this past litter, as well as other rosettes in the past.(She has outlived them at this point) This girl has given me a quad(my king) and while she does not have feline, the cubs father did This double has no feline parent. This GR has no feline parent This double was born from a triple Feline However, everything aside, Felines are extremely popular markings, so it makes sense that they'd be present. Another note- I, among other rosette breeders, have noticed that rosettes seem to pass together far more often than not(in the case that multiple rosettes are involved) I've only ever bred two single rosettes, ever (that I can remember anyway), however in just this past couple of months I've bred 6 doubles-quad rosettes, three of which were within a couple days of eachother. 1 player likes this post! Like?Edited on 24/05/17 @ 16:18:50 by The Frozen Lummox (#275) |
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Jeice103 (#98083)
Divine View Forum Posts Posted on 2017-05-29 11:47:53 |
I have an inverted silky rosette, her father has feline 1 onyx and her mother has feline 1 onyx and feline 6 onyx 1 player likes this post! Like? |
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Emerald (#87312)
Heavenly View Forum Posts Posted on 2017-06-24 13:57:44 |
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Wild-eyed-wanderer (#55931)
Total Chad View Forum Posts Posted on 2017-06-24 23:01:39 |
My king just had a rosette pop up in one of his litters, he has several feline markings. Here she is, no history of rosette before hand. https://www.lioden.com/lion.php?id=794112025470 0 players like this post! Like? |
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Diomeda (#112461)
Majestic View Forum Posts Posted on 2017-06-25 06:24:19 |
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Emerald (#87312)
Heavenly View Forum Posts Posted on 2017-06-25 06:31:14 |
@Diomeda NCL at the nature reserve. No feline markings, but I forgot what else she had. 0 players like this post! Like? |
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Diomeda (#112461)
Majestic View Forum Posts Posted on 2017-06-25 06:32:07 |
Perhaps she was chased and had one? But then the theory must be wrong or your girl broke the system 0 players like this post! Like? |
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Fakelamb {Side} (#12714)
Dreamboat of Ladies View Forum Posts Posted on 2017-06-25 06:33:45 |
my king has feline 7 white and he's produced 2 cubs with rosettes i checked the lineage and neither of the mothers had rosette so i went deeper, back to the grandparents and great grandparents from either side, NONE of the lions in either cubs lineage had the rosette marking, i'm stumped links to the cubbins: - https://www.lioden.com/lion.php?id=794111934583 - https://www.lioden.com/lion.php?id=794111825116 0 players like this post! Like?Edited on 25/06/17 @ 06:56:36 by boxpuppy ʕ•ᴥ•ʔ (#12714) |
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Emerald (#87312)
Heavenly View Forum Posts Posted on 2017-06-25 06:33:47 |
@Diomeda No, I know she had no feline markings; I remember that much. She had some markings, but I forgot what they were. She also had some sort of under marking I'm fairly certain and that's been suggested to have contributed to spawning rosettes. 0 players like this post! Like? |
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Jeice103 (#98083)
Divine View Forum Posts Posted on 2017-06-25 07:02:21 |
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The Detective Dances (#46516)
Usual View Forum Posts Posted on 2017-07-28 20:43:41 |
The base colors seem to have some affect, as well. The cream rosette came out of a cream mother, the gold rosette came out of a yellow-ish color, and the brown rosette came out of a vaguely-brown color, right? I've not gotten any yet, but that is interesting. I'll be keeping an eye out for feline studs, now o.0 0 players like this post! Like? |
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Jeice103 (#98083)
Divine View Forum Posts Posted on 2017-07-29 04:36:18 |
That works in my case because I got an inverted rosette silky from an isabel based mother. 0 players like this post! Like? |
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