Posted by Cracking The Rosette Code?

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Posted on
2017-05-24 15:44:52
According to the Wiki,
"Rosettes seem to be the most popular marking on Lioden currently, due to the mysterious nature of how they're passed on, and the fact that they can randomly pop up in any breeding. There are tons of user theories and conspiracies floating around regarding how Rosette works, but nobody truly knowsβ€”the code has yet to be cracked."

This could be taken to imply that they are truly random ("the fact that they can randomly pop up in any breeding"), but it can also imply that there is, in fact, a code ("the code has yet to be cracked").


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Exhibit A:
Cream Rosette

Mother was chased, but had the following:
Base: Cream (White Nose)
Mane Type: Normal
Mane Color: Brown
Eye Color: Grey
Slot 1: Onyx Ripple
Slot 2: Chocolate Top
Slot 6: Feline 7 Black

Dad had the following:
Base: Silver Grey (White Nose)
Mane Type: Sideburn
Mane Color: Lilac
Eye Color: Lavender
Slot 1: Feline 1 Dark Brown
Slot 2: White Tips
Slot 3: Feline 2 Onyx
Slot 4: Feline 6 Onyx
Slot 5: Feline 4 Onyx
Slot 6: Feline 1 Onyx
Slot 8: White Undercoat
Slot 9: Feline 3 Onyx
Slot 10: Onyx Lace
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Exhibit B:
Gold Rosette

Mom had the following:
Base: Dark Vanilla (Fallow Nose)
Mane Type: Diabolic
Mane Color: Lilac
Eye Color: Pink
Slot 1: Brown Mask
Slot 4: Feline 6 Dark Brown
Slot 5: Feline 4 Onyx

Dad had the following:
Base: Blush Rose (White Nose)
Mane Type: Diabolic
Mane Color: Manakbir
Eye Color: Peach
Slot 1: Feline 7 Ginger
Slot 2: Feline 1 Black
Slot 3: Rose Pelage
Slot 4: Maroon Pelage
Slot 5: Onyx Lace
Slot 6: Feline 4 Silver
Slot 7: Feline 2 Ginger
Slot 8: White Panther
Slot 9: Under White 4
Slot 10: Feline 3 Onyx
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Exhibit C:
Brown Rosette

Mom had the following:
Base: Dun (White Nose)
Mane Type: Tsavo
Mane Color: Maroon
Eye Color: White
Slot 1: White Cobweb
Slot 6: Vitiligo 3
Slot 7: Vitiligo 2
Slot 9: Vitiligo 4

Dad had the Following:
Base: Onyx (Brown Nose)
Mane Type: Savage
Mane Color: Unholy
Eye Color: Saffron
Slot 4: Feline 6 Onyx
Slot 5: Feline 2 Onyx
Slot 6: Feline 1 Onyx
Slot 7: Feline 7 Onyx
Slot 8: Feline 5 Onyx
Slot 9: Feline 3 Onyx
Slot 10: Feline 4 Onyx

Do you see a pattern?
I do.
Every. Single. Father. Has. At. Least. One. Feline. Marking.
See it?
Maybe parents with Feline markings produce rosettes, but it's rare.

Credit: Empress Tansy (#54105)




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Edited on 02/09/18 @ 10:03:23 by starfruit [with a lowercase s] (#112180)

Vanii [Main] (#36229)

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Posted on
2024-03-19 10:19:25
My king had another bushveld heavy rosette lol?

Cub: https://www.lioden.com/lion.php?id=794215132605

Mom is basic Zarin base: https://www.lioden.com/lion.php?id=794215004631
dad: https://www.lioden.com/lion.php?mid=36229


My king does have
- siamese
- burmese
- panther
- margay

has anyone had luck with the new leopard tail?




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Edited on 19/03/24 @ 10:19:50 by Chaparrita ❣️[G1 Main] (#36229)

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Posted on
2024-03-21 13:23:42
https://www.lioden.com/lion.php?id=794215286392

not mine, but my king sired

slot 8, same slot my king has ice icefall

cat markings my king has: lilac burmese, dawn margay, scoundrel feline



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Askura {Main} (#230132)

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Posted on
2024-03-24 09:19:15
So, white blaze must definitely be a factor because I just got another rosette from my king, and that's the only "cat" marking my lad has.

https://www.lioden.com/lion.php?id=794215413607

The mother was an NCL that had absolutely no markings.
The Red Rosette is in Slot 4 which is where my king had Prune Squabble



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AlexCorvid| (#416170)

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Posted on
2024-03-24 16:26:56
Scried a handful of cubs (like 1+k sb per pairing) to figure out my chances of a good cub with my spice panther. Y'all might appreciate these screenshots.

My lioness scried with two different studs: https://www.lioden.com/lion.php?id=794210330636

With my king: https://www.lioden.com/lion.php?mid=322877
https://i.imgur.com/qJqq7IZ.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/XDS5UxC.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/o7XUzux.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/wb5m1Q8.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/q101eIR.jpg

With the other stud:https://www.lioden.com/lion.php?mid=220834
https://i.imgur.com/GofOG8Z.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/bvw5O6e.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/Zz4a8ha.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/4tJ0Nyr.jpeg
https://i.imgur.com/VSUJ0d4.jpeg
https://i.imgur.com/TmLV0AL.jpeg
https://i.imgur.com/Vs2LF2a.jpeg
https://i.imgur.com/VteX0DZ.jpeg
https://i.imgur.com/lKxUdzD.jpeg
https://i.imgur.com/mvs24dh.jpeg
https://i.imgur.com/SM0L06h.jpeg
https://i.imgur.com/cGoWRCo.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/kAE0hTA.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/fLXdhSE.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/SQsi9gG.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/wAeuOSZ.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/suk9O3L.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/71yC145.jpeg
https://i.imgur.com/exZjCZN.jpeg
https://i.imgur.com/ta0jgHZ.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/Vb5Sogr.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/3DWLhkK.jpg


Forgot to share this here as well(I shared it in a seperate thread as well on my. Main account)



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AlexCorvid|No-stress
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Posted on
2024-03-26 14:21:18
Ok no never mind it's a passed and I'm forgetful.
I'm gonna keep trying to look for consistency in my scries. *blerg*



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Edited on 26/03/24 @ 14:31:54 by AlexCorvid[mcdonalds]Ros Labs (#322877)

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Posted on
2024-03-27 02:22:42
https://www.lioden.com/lion.php?id=794215660867
Had this boy born today, both parents have a Feline mark in that slot



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πŸ¦‹βƒŸπš1𝚟𝚎
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Posted on
2024-03-27 10:46:22
Not 100% sure this may help crack the code buttt...

A couple of weeks ago (Maybe more than a month), I had this lioness that magically had a (Auburn) soft rosette on. Both parents (their mother and my current king) didn't have any rosettes.
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Mother's marks, base, genetics, etc (What I believe may help):

Base & Skin: Velvet (Echo Skin)
Genetics: Black Dark Solid Special
Fert: Very low
Mane type & color: Thick Elysian Mane

MARKINGS:
Slot 5: Chatoyant Feline (38%) Tier 3
Slot 6: Feline 2 Elysian (31%) Tier 5

Slot 7: Hyena Blots Scarce Noctis (16%) Tier 3
Slot 9: Feline 6 Elysian (33%) Tier 5
Slot 10: White Marbled Unders (26%) Tier 1
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My King's marks, base, etc:

Base & Skin: Intersteller + Brown Skin
Genetics: Black Dark Solid Special
Mane type + color: Normal Noctis

MARKINGS:
Slot 1: Sunset Lace (100%) Tier 3
Slot 2: Sunset Siamese (100%) Tier 3
Slot 3: Glacial Glaze (100%) Tier 3
Slot 4: Sunset Feralis (100%) Tier 3
Slot 5: Water Hyacinth Margay (100%) Tier 3
Slot 6: Sunset Crackle (100%) Tier 3
Slot 7: Onyx Grit (22%) Tier 1
Slot 8: Pulsar Dim (100%) Tier 5
Slot 9: Feline 9 Elysian (100%) Tier 5
Slot 10: Maofelis White (100%) Tier 6
Slot 11: Noctis Upendezi (74%) Tier 3
Slot 12: Brown Cowl (48%) Tier 0



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Edited on 28/03/24 @ 08:48:05 by 𝚁1πšŸπšŽπš› {G2STELLER+MOSAIC} (#293622)

Kioko | Clean G3
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Posted on
2024-03-28 06:59:30
I'm starting to think any Blaze is a factor for Red Rosette maybe?

My King https://www.lioden.com/lion.php?mid=25194 has a onyx heavy rosette and bred with this lady https://www.lioden.com/lion.php?id=794213540663 who popped out a cub with a random red rosette in slot 10: https://www.lioden.com/lion.php?id=794215690318

King has Slot 10: Haliotis English Spots (100%) Tier 3 and mom has Slot 10: Sunset Crackle (14%) Tier 3 so I don't think either of those are related, but king does have Slot 8: Quartz Blaze (81%) Tier 1. And Askura {Main} (#230132) just said their king with White Blaze popped out Red Shaded Rosette as well...




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AlexCorvid|No-stress
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Posted on
2024-03-28 07:08:15
https://www.lioden.com/lion.php?mid=322877
My king turns out to be a rosette spawn.

His. Mom https://www.lioden.com/lion.php?id=794212486737

His dad https://www.lioden.com/lion.php?mid=179568

I'll be mut repping him after the thirty day thing wears off



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Edited on 28/03/24 @ 07:17:32 by AlexCorvid[Once upon a Child] (#416170)

Lucas | G1 Panda
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Posted on
2024-03-28 07:12:53
@Askura your king has Haliotis Margay. But I doubt Blaze counts as a cat mark sadly. And going along with what could be a Shaded criteria: Mane markings. One parent has Back Hair which is a marking only shown on manes

@Kioko your lioness has a mane marking as well which has been found to possibly be the criteria for Shaded. She has Low Flow



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Lucas | G1 Panda
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Posted on
2024-03-28 07:13:49
Also what happened to all the pages? It only shows 23 pages on this forum when there was 4000+

Ignore this. I'm getting it mixed up with Find my NCL



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Edited on 28/03/24 @ 07:15:14 by Lucas | G1 Nefer Pie M-Rlc (#229613)

Askura {Main} (#230132)

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Posted on
2024-03-28 07:24:15
@Lucas | G1 Noctis Neb. M-RLC (#229229) - I just gave him that mark yesterday, both rosette cubs from him were born prior to him receiving that mark

Did not realize back hair was a criteria though wth is wrong with Rosettes



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Lucas | G1 Panda
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Posted on
2024-03-28 07:56:12
Yeah,it's a recent discovery that different roses have different criteria.

Shaded: Mane Markings
Inverted: Unknown. Don't follow the other criteria if Inverted Soft or Shaded
Soft: Under- marking
Heavy: Cat/Felidae markings (+lace?)



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Posted on
2024-04-08 04:42:11
NSR slot 2 born today!!


same slot my king has leonid undershine, don't think it's related
NSR seems to be one of the common ones that pop up anywhere
mom didn't have any marking in that slot, but she did have
Slot 3: Maofelis Lilac (88%) Tier 6
Slot 4: White Skull (63%) Tier 1
Slot 5: White Mottled Vents (68%) Tier 6
Slot 7: Proteles Scarce Noctis (100%) Tier 3
Slot 9: Noctis Tail Half (100%) Tier 1
Slot 10: Noctis Upendezi (58%) Tier 3




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Ramune [15 BO Jelly] (#46341)

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Posted on
2024-05-15 06:13:04
https://www.lioden.com/lion.php?id=794219092977

No mane markings from the stud - briar shaded rosette. No markings at all on mom.



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