Actually, I think this is already a planned course of action for the moderation team!
https://www.lioden.com/topic.php?id=304429216538 (< copy and paste link into search bar) -- you can scroll down here to double check, as I am unsure, but I am in total support of this idea if not so yet!

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nope its called '"early aging" which i think is like...your cub grows to fast

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No, I just double-checked. There is a hairless option and it says "planned" right next to it. cx
It comes before the early aging option.

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yup! i saw hairless was planned so i changed my thing. but elderly lion art/ stuff isnt a thing .

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Oh. haha - well in that case, I certainly agree.
I'm a total neat freak and it bothers me that I can't separate my elders from my adults like adolescents to cubs.

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Maybe I'm not quite understanding the suggestion because I don't really understand the whole "Hairless" mutation relevance, but if my understanding is correct you mean that once your lions get to a certain age they have a new pose to show their age?
If that is in fact what you're suggesting, then you'll be happy to hear that it already exists kinda! At least on default lion/lionesses. It doesn't go As far as a pose, but as youre lions age in their later years they have an aging line layer that increases opacity. For example you can see them on this lion!

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i took hairless off idk if its still showing for people.

and i just looked up the elderly lion stage currently and honestly its not much different, its so subtle ive never even noticed it and like someone said above it would make sorting a lot easier.

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I don't know, actually think the aging lines was a great way of handle paying tribune to a lions age whilst not murdering poor Xylax with an insane amount of new art. It's unfortunate, but he definitely has his work cut out for him as it is, and while he's doing a swell job of catering to our interests I think another age stage might end up being a bit out of priorties, especially when we have something already in place for it.

I mean think about it, you'd need the stage for mutations too, so that's 3 major and 21(28 if you count pie's, 34 if you count poses) minor female bases/poses + 5 major and 11(18 if you count pies) minor male bases/poses. And then all the markings for each. So I really don't think this would be particularly plausible, at least not any time soon, but probably not.

I know it's not as exciting as a whole elder pose, but I actually kinda like the current elder stage edits that way personally. A whole elder stage would feel like it changes who the lion is to me, I think, while the layer adds age to the image of the lion as you have come to know, kinda like it keeps their personality or something.

I know what you're saying, but I just don't think its a very practical thing for them to undertake, unfortunately. ): But hey, if you're having trouble differentiating your lions, I find traditional den display helps, since you can see all your lions ages simultaneously.

EDIT: Alternately, maybe the age layer could just be made more prominent?

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ugh i hate when people throw the whole "its not a priority " thing on here. I get what your saying its just a idea though. i mean they added extra cub stages, it could just be a purchase through the oasis to add a extra adult stage. I also already updated the posts saying it could just need a art update considering it is almost 3 years old.

I get what your saying, it would be hard but its not impossible but also not something we need immediately.

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hey, hey, babs <3
everyone's entitled to their opinions.

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I understand what you're saying about the whole "it's not a priority" thing not really being entirely valid criticism on suggestions, so ignore that part and I'll restate my actual concerns without that interference. I guess what I meant was that since we have a solution that creates (arguably) the same polish as the poses would, or at least satisfies that detail in game polish in some way(understandably inferior in yours and likely many others opinions but objectively more efficiently, so I'd say it balances out), the work that would go into making the new stage isn't really worth it in the grand scheme of the game.

We have a lot of hugely thorough details being added, we have a lot of hugely thorough details already in the game, what we don't see are easy, efficient bits of polish that don't add to the load any time something new is added. The way lion components are structured in LioDen means that any art addition added multiplies the work for the next art addition, making each new addition exponentially more difficult, our current aging process, however, is a flat addition, comparable to a single marking, if every lions base ha(d/s) it then you'd still only need to add one component per each new base added, and no new components for makings, piebalds or small base changes. The efficiency of aging lines make them way too powerful of a polish detail to replace with a full stage.

Anyhow, while on these terms I cannot support a full pose stage for elders, I'd have no disagreements with an update to the aging lines themselves. In my experience I don't find that revamps are very common on LD due to the amount of effort that needs to be put into them, or in markings case it wouldn't cause too much trouble but people have already paid for that version, and it would cause uproar to change- but since aging lines are more like markings in the fact that would only require some extra detailing and wouldn't cause members to lose money on a design(but might actually promote purchase of argon oil, since the effects are more noticeable!) I think that would be completely reasonable of an update if enough people are on board with them being more visible, and while I don't personally have an opinion on whether or not it would improve anything, I would be fully supportive of its realization. In addition I think this could also be an opportunity to add aging lies to other bases(major mutations/etc) as well, if they aren't already present that is xD.

Beware, tangential ramble ahead:
Bringing up priority was a mistake on my part, for which I apologize- I actually personally prefer polish/fleshing ideas like this to things like new mutations(which I think are pretty awesome too, don't get me wrong!) 1000 times over, and it makes me really happy to see such concepts being brought up in suggestions- but I'm a game designer so that's part of my mentality, and I know a lot of people prefer the opposite. Like so, it was out of place and even silly of me to try and speak for that side of the argument in, considering it wasn't actually part of my personal issue with the idea.

I'll admit I may have responded negatively due to a personal subconscious bias against the completely cosmetic "more art/content!" Just-for-that-purpose style of suggestion, which I realize this isn't exactly, but still lies on the border of, and with the addition of the efficient fix already in play, the suggestion of replacing that with the heavy workload modifier just felt really wrong to me, especially when we have so many things going on and in the future that we want to move smoothly that would be made more difficult by this, not in the sense of its taking up time and effort that could be channeled elsewhere but in the sense that it's actually beefing up the workload for completely irrelevant lion component/art additions due to that work multiplier.

It pains me to to see an idea overlooked because it's not as flashy as there others. In some ways suggestions should stand on their own and be taken at face value rather than compared to other ideas that don't really effect each other beyond just taking time away from each other, but at the same time I think it's important that the decision makers know our interests in relation to each other as well. Most of the time people will support anything they find interesting and aren't opposed to, so without any specification it's hard to see what the community really favors.
Expressing personal priorities is a double edged sword, it helps show how interests relate and keeps people from holding back their full interest on the basis that they're more interested in something else since their priorities are already out in the open, but it also shows negativity towards an idea that wouldn't be there were it not compared. And of course expression something outwardly solidifies it in your mind, as well as potentially promotes it in others. But I digress, this particular block of text was a bit of a tangent that doesn't really add much to the idea itself, and is in no way an excuse but rather an explanation for my misguided referencing in my last post. So regardless of anything, whether or not thoughts on popular and personal priorities belong in suggestion responses (if you/anyone have more thoughts on this, do PM me, as I'd love to solidify some basis of opinion for or against, and don't wish to take up any more space here since its not directly relevant to the idea itself, but just the etiquette of suggestions) I can express my apologies in the very least for speaking from the domain of an opinion that is not quite in line with my own.
End tangential ramble

Last note, regardless of whether or not any of this idea is implemented, be it parts I agree with or not, I wish you luck, and would like to express my sincerest of thanks for you taking your time out of your life to make suggestions in hopes of bringing about your image of what's best for LioDen. I really enjoy LioDen, and it wouldn't be where it is today without its users suggestions.

TLDR:
I apologize for using priorities(particularly those that don't belong to me) as an argument/explain what I really meant.
I do not support a full aging pose.
I support an update for aging lines.
Thank you for being a wonderful member and posting suggestions to help make the game the best it can be.

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