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 Heda Vampiric (#56702) 
Prophet View Forum Posts  Posted on 2017-08-20 20:22:04 |
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Posted on 2017-12-15 13:31:13 |
It's a rather complicated script; it's less than 75% as it's less "guaranteed" than the same marking being in both slots, but it's something we don't want to confirm at this time. We still want there to be some mystery to breeding, but I just wanted to step in here and correct the theory that male markings roll first. I hope I've at least helped in that regard :)  0 players like this post! Like? |
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Bezthiel 🍉 (#81210)
Lone Wanderer View Forum Posts Posted on 2017-12-15 13:39:33 |
Is there any particular reason there's a lowered chance for markings to pass if they're not the same? And for Heda, mostly: I'm getting a (weird) pretty consistent 5% bias towards the male's markings when I roll these cubs one at a time. I say weird because I haven't actually gotten such a consistent bias before hitting at least 1k rolls before. 0 players like this post! Like?Edited on 15/12/17 @ 13:43:36 by Bezthiel (#81210) |
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👑King: CleanFerusDracoStrip (#124858) True King View Forum Posts Posted on 2017-12-15 13:48:54 |
Thanks to the mod who stepped in to clarify things. I don't pay attention to marking pass rate myself (i usually breed for bases and mutations over markings) so I will take your word for it. If the tests show a fairly even pass rate, then I'm content with that. 0 players like this post! Like? |
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Heda Vampiric (#56702)
Prophet View Forum Posts Posted on 2017-12-15 16:14:24 |
Bez, keep me updated via PM of your finds? I'm curious what you find with this one at a time thing. 0 players like this post! Like?Edited on 15/12/17 @ 20:51:32 by Heda RedBox (#56702) |
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Bezthiel 🍉 (#81210)
Lone Wanderer View Forum Posts Posted on 2017-12-16 06:45:47 |
Will do! I'm thinking of putting it all into a thread too, see if anyone else gets anything similar. And because RIP my skull pile for January sb. 0 players like this post! Like? |
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👑King: CleanFerusDracoStrip (#124858) True King View Forum Posts Posted on 2017-12-16 06:55:25 |
Heda, as the tests were from the same script that runs when you breed a cub, I just don't have a problem seeing numbers from 1300 breedings and leaving it at that. But I'm also dealing with RL stuff that I care a lot more about right now, so I'm content to take them at their word because I'm not expending additional energy on arguing the numbers with people here. Feel free to do all the research you want, and if it contradicts what's said here, okay, carry on, you don't need my support for that. I'm just done with the issue. 0 players like this post! Like? |
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Bezthiel 🍉 (#81210)
Lone Wanderer View Forum Posts Posted on 2017-12-16 07:02:09 |
At this point, I trust that the pass roll is 50/50, but I don't personally think this is solved because different markings have a pass of "less than 75% as it's less "guaranteed" than the same marking being in both slots...". I didn't spend 75GB on making five 10 marked custom ladies because I wanted to have less of a chance of a 0 marked female to have marks pass. I wanted pretty mixes of them and my king, and now I find out that was basically a waste? Their cubs have the same chance of picking up markings as if I bred my king to a 0 mark NCL? Edits for grammar again- early mornings are not my strong suit. 0 players like this post! Like?Edited on 16/12/17 @ 07:05:25 by Bezthiel (#81210) |
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☘ Nifur (side (#98977)
Bone Collector View Forum Posts Posted on 2017-12-18 07:32:25 |
@Bethiel maybe it's bad luck, one second I think maybe it's better to let female markings more passable, but another second I'm afraid it will let the price of special markings drop. 0 players like this post! Like? |
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Bezthiel 🍉 (#81210)
Lone Wanderer View Forum Posts Posted on 2017-12-18 07:49:51 |
I thought maybe it was bad luck too, so I started doing this. Not actually at 500 anymore, but the ratio stays pretty firmly at 50% pass; the variations of a few percentages I'm taking as being sample size based. I'm also planning on keeping track of percentage of the time my king's marks roll into an empty slot, to see if they actually are even. If you want to keep track of what I'm doing there or do your own, I definitely encourage you to. The more of us that do this, the closer to 1mil+ we can get to see if it really is 50% when marks are different. Which is why, again, I really don't feel like this was fixed. We might have had cause wrong, but the basis of the problem on this thread is the same. Female breeding lives are too short for the current pass rate (apparently especially when you breed different marking together). That might mean just upping the pass rate of markings when two different ones are bred together. 0 players like this post! Like? |
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☘ Nifur (side (#98977)
Bone Collector View Forum Posts Posted on 2017-12-18 08:08:02 |
@Bezthiel well, but the admins confirmed the passing rate is supposed to be 50/50 through coding, I trust codes. All I can do now is buy as many lionesses with the markings I want as possible and use IBFs  0 players like this post! Like? |
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Bezthiel 🍉 (#81210)
Lone Wanderer View Forum Posts Posted on 2017-12-18 08:17:53 |
That's not what I mean. I mean, like the modpost says, if you breed two lions with the same marking together, you get a 75% chance of a marking passing at all. So far, by 600 rolled cubs, if you breed two lions with a different marking in the same slot together, you get a 50% chance of a marking passing at all (which are then 25% kings and 25% queens marks, which is fine, not the problem). Fairly, it should be, if you breed two lions together with markings in the same slot, you would get a 75% (or at least approx. 75%) chance of a marking passing at all. 0 players like this post! Like?Edited on 18/12/17 @ 08:21:01 by Bezthiel (#81210) |
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☘ Nifur (side (#98977)
Bone Collector View Forum Posts Posted on 2017-12-18 08:31:06 |
that's a good point, 25% make a huge difference, like what we do when breeding lionesses with different fertility percentage. 25% lionesses sometimes take a lot of tries, 50% takes few. 0 players like this post! Like? |
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Heda Vampiric (#56702)
Prophet View Forum Posts Posted on 2017-12-18 09:34:11 |
Another problem is that while the staff say now that it is 50/50, it was said before that males roll first. This was higher up given info, which is why I trusted it. The fact that this seems no longer the case is still perplexing. 0 players like this post! Like? |
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Bezthiel 🍉 (#81210)
Lone Wanderer View Forum Posts Posted on 2017-12-18 09:38:11 |
Related to our rolls discussion- your inbox is full, Heda. I'm also still curious as to why some of the staff have said that male markings roll first, but others are equally as sure that this is not the case. I do believe that either way it equates to a 50/50 roll, but do want to know which it is. 0 players like this post! Like? |
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Heda Vampiric (#56702)
Prophet View Forum Posts Posted on 2017-12-18 09:47:44 |
Ah shit, sorry, cleared some space. 0 players like this post! Like?Edited on 18/12/17 @ 09:53:22 by Heda RedBox (#56702) |
