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2017-09-16 02:31:17
Are you more into mane shapes? Then the Mane Genetics Thread is here for you

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Wiki entry about Combo Bases

This began as a way to share theories about possible combinations, but then things got way bigger than expected. A lot of people have invested a lot of currency in the scrying stone to see if we were right about combos, and here is the result :D

But wait... What are combo bases?



When you breed two lions with the right combination of bases, their cubs roll a further, extra chance that can result in a third, new base, a "combo" base. Each combo base has its own requirements, and these bases often ignore the set genetic rules: for example, the Cairngorm combo base (Black Light Solid Special genetics) can be obtained by breeding a Celestial lion (Black Dark Countershaded Special genetics) and a Cocoa lioness (Black Medium Countershaded Rare genetics). Most combo bases can be passed down as long as one parent has it and further requirements are met if there are any, with the exception of Pulsar and Temporal.

*Since the 12th October update, cubs that have triggered the original combo bases - Cairngorm, Citrine, Madagascar or Qahir - have a 50% chance of getting their respective mane color, and these can be inherited like any other mane color!

Right now there are two different types of combo bases: "standard" combos and "factor" combos. Factor ones can be obtined by breeding any of the bases that make up the combo, but standard ones can be obtained by more than one combination of bases that are assembled into two different groups. The combo can trigger as long as the parents have bases that belong to a different combo group (not to be mistaken by the genetic color group).

*Note: While some of the following standard combo tables have been completed, there may be some combinations that remain undiscovered yet.

Standard combos:





Arabica

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Arabica by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Black



  • Buttercream

  • Buttermilk






Asiatic

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Asiatic by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Dun

  • Gray



  • Cream

  • White






Black Rose

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Black Rose by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Cinnabar



  • Jet

  • Obsidian

  • Onyx






Cairngorm

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Cairngorm by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Celestial

  • Ice

  • Sidereal

  • Skyward



  • Cocoa

  • Ethereal

  • Pearl

  • Slate






Citrine

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Citrine by the almighty Scrying Stone:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Cinnabar

  • Kimanjano

  • Topaz

  • Xanthic



  • Cherry Blossom

  • Fiery

  • Fulvous

  • Sulphur






Cloudburst

This base can only be obtained during wet season; this means the two lions must breed during wet season. Confirmed bases to breed Cloudburst by the almighty Scrying Stone:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Albino



  • Chartreux

  • Korat

  • Maltese






Elysian

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Elisyan by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Ice



  • Divine

  • Ebony






Ember

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Ember by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Blazing

  • Fiery



  • Flint

  • Pewter






Hellebore

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Hellebore by the almighty Scrying Stone:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Lilac



  • Goldenrod

  • Udara






Madagascar

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Madagascar by the almighty Scrying Stone:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Sapela

  • Sepia

  • Shedua

  • Unholy



  • Ivory

  • Nacre

  • Sunset

  • Supernal






Nadir

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Nadir by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Black Rose

  • Ebony



  • Ardor

  • Hellebore

  • Rhodonite






Pulsar

This base can only be obtained via combo during July, but can be passed down by breeding two Pulsar based lions all year around. Confirmed bases to breed Pulsar by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Arctic



  • Anjeer

  • Blazing

  • Inferno

  • Prune






Qahir

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Qahir by the almighty Scrying Stone:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Buff

  • Cameo

  • Hallowed

  • Russet



  • Chartreux

  • Glacial

  • Hematite

  • Opal






Snowflake

This base can only be obtained during wet season; this means the two lions must breed during wet season. Confirmed bases to breed Snowflake by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Albino



  • Arctic

  • Aufeis

  • Frostbitten

  • Glacial

  • Ice






Temporal

This base can only be obtained via combo during October, but can be passed down by breeding two Temporal based lions all year around. Confirmed bases to breed Temporal by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Unholy



  • Bast

  • Sunset




Factor combos:





Gilded

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Gilded by the almighty News:
1st base2nd base3rd base

  • Anubis



  • Bast



  • Seth






Olive

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Olive by the almighty News:
1st base2nd base

  • Caramel



  • Xanthic






Rose Gold

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Rose Gold by the almighty News:
1st base2nd base3rd base

  • Alabaster



  • Sha



  • Velvet






Soul

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Soul by the almighty News:
1st base2nd base

  • Ivory



  • Ebony





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Edited on 19/12/19 @ 03:40:35 by Jingle Bere (#84593)

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Posted on
2018-01-11 09:43:42
I'll go try scrying one of my madagascar girls with my sunset king.



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2018-01-11 09:51:46
"I almost wonder if Sunset, being an ultra rare base in itself, has a better chance of passing." -Gruth, Madagascar
King! 🐉 (#36375)

Well, fifty tries later I've got another two prunes, four anjeers, one SUNSET, no madagascars. Well...



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2018-01-11 09:53:23
100 tries. 0 madagascars, 1 sunset
Sounds about right on the sunset pass rate. LOL



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Posted on
2018-01-11 10:00:53
100 more tries with a different mad. girl - 0 madagascars, 3 sunsets
Have to remember that. LOL

So total 200 - 4 sunsets, 0 madagascars



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Desolace, Colorbomb (#36375)

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Posted on
2018-01-11 10:02:22
I just tried again with all my girls.

Spent a TON of sb!

50x Maddy + Ivory = 0 Madagascar, 1 fiery, 1 maroon, 5 prune.

50x Maddy + Supernal = 0 Madagascar, 3 Supernal, 10 Prune, 7 Russet

50x Maddy + Nacre = 0 Madagascar, 3 Nacre, 12 Prune, 6 Russet

50x Maddy + Sapela = 0 Madagascar, 2 Maroon, 2 Umber, 2 Sapela, 1 Anjeer, 3 Prune

50x Maddy + Shedua = 0 Madagascar, 5 Shedua, 6 Prune

50x Maddy + Unholy = 0 Madagascar, 5 Unholy, 10 Prune

100 x Maddy + Sunset = 0 Madagascar, 2 Sunset, 8 Anjeer 10 Prune



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Grovyle (#94985)

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2018-01-11 10:05:55
Wow, that's a lot of prunes. So we've got a total of 750 scries [incl. the post after me] with not one Madagascar. Seems either pretty rare or pretty broken.



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Edited on 11/01/18 @ 10:07:44 by Grovyle [Sunset Patches] (#94985)

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Posted on
2018-01-11 10:06:04
I did 50 more using your madagascar king with my sunset girls
0 madagascar - 2 sunset





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Desolace, Colorbomb (#36375)

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2018-01-11 10:06:52
I dont know if they meant it to be THAT rare or not....seems overly rare to me.



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2018-01-11 10:09:01
Yeah I wonder. Is it possible they haven't undated the scrying stone code?
If I put in an unholy x sunset I usually get a madagascar. Don't know why it would be more rare using the madagascar base itself.



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Grovyle (#94985)

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2018-01-11 10:09:28
My bet is on it's bugged. I mean, we've got nine sunsets with 450 tries but not one Madagascar. That's ridiculous.



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2018-01-12 09:01:40
Okay, so is there anyone with a second-gen madagascar? Mine ages up tomorrow and I'd like to know whether I should breed her to my sunset or if the base won't pass anyway.



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muttduck (#78)

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Posted on
2018-01-12 09:16:02
I've never gotten Cairngorm from my Cairngorm girls to Ice studs....
I know that isn't exactly Madagascar/Sunset, but my pairs should result in a second gen combo, and haven't.



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Posted on
2018-01-12 09:37:21
Any combo base replicating itself would be nice to know. I'm starting to doubt it can happen. Maybe we should ask someone in admin or something. It did say they could in the news post, but if not showing up in scrying at all that's concerning.



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muttduck (#78)

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Posted on
2018-01-12 09:48:54
I wonder when they "fixed" the scrying stone's glitch of showing that (combo + same combo = combo), they accidentally glitched the combo reproducing itself at all, even with its factors.



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Posted on
2018-01-13 12:32:14
I sure hope the combo bases can pass because I just had the most gorgeous Madagascar cub who is my new heir. Only double rosette with the base.
https://www.lioden.com/lion.php?id=794115179716



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