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2018-04-27 14:24:34
17th October, 2019: I am leaving these existing links up, however I am going to start working through some results in this thread (more recent to be honest, because a lot of lions are repped or dead now) and compiling them all into one spreadsheet and then categorized spreadsheets after that. Please keep posting results in the meantime :D <3


Attempts to crack the code for either of the new rosette markings. Feel free to collaborate and offer suggestions/scrying results :D

CONFIRMED BREEDINGS FROM SCRYING

Spreadsheet HERE

marking comparison spreadsheet here *unfinished

opacity comparison SPREADSHEET *unfinished



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Edited on 17/10/19 @ 20:17:59 by CALA (#105146)

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2018-04-28 13:26:09
Crappy spreadsheet here



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2018-04-28 13:30:34
I wonder if the opacity of the new rosette has any bearing on possible marking combinations? I'm going to try and work that out, seeing as opacity is my specialty - it might narrow the field down a WHOLE lot. (ie, in terms of breeding, opacity is affected by the opacity of the opposing mark in the shared slot. It drops by almost half if it isn't a shared slot, but increases if it is)



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CALA (#105146)


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2018-04-28 13:42:40
Alright, none of this will make sense for a little bit, so don't mind me xD

SLOT 4
SLOT 6
SLOT 9**
SLOT 10**

passed in slot 4

slot 4: Coral Luster
(77% - 92% : 16)
slot 4: white inverted brindle
(77 : 96% : 16)

slot 6: under cream 4
(86% - 96% : 16)
slot 6: white feline unders
(80% - 94% : 16)

slot 9: henna cloud
(84% - 100% : 16)
slot 9: vitiligo 4
(82% - 92% : 16)

slot 10: bloodbourne siamese
(91% - 100% : 16)

out
slot 1, slot 2, slot 5, slot 8



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Edited on 28/04/18 @ 13:56:59 by CALA (#105146)

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2018-04-28 13:47:48
my first thought for heavy rosette was that one or both parents need more than one rosette marking?



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CALA (#105146)


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2018-04-28 13:49:36
Unfortunately that has just been disproven by Lithium scrying both a soft AND a heavy from non-rosette parents :) But we all thought similar :D At the moment I'm trying to strike possible markings off the list, assuming the mark passes with the same opacity rates as regular marks pass.



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2018-04-28 13:54:12
oh what that has me interested
I shall be off to do some scrying! πŸ”ŽπŸ”ŽπŸ”Ž



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CALA (#105146)


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2018-04-28 13:56:07
Alright, anyone up for a scrying challenge? :'D



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Posted on
2018-04-28 13:56:38
@CALA

Dare i ask? xD



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CALA (#105146)


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Posted on
2018-04-28 14:00:14
Assuming it passes with the same opacity ratio as regular markings, I can definitively discount the following marks after only 16 scrying attempts! (from this pairing Lithium's King x Lioness)

** this theory only works under the assumption the required marking shares a slot **

Not Eligible
Slot 1: Hyena Stripes Scarce White (100%)
Slot 2: Black Dorsum (33%)
Slot 5: Golden Dust (61%)
Slot 5: Under Golden 8 (75%)
Slot 8: Feline 5 Onyx (100%)

Therefore, assumed possible marking combinations from this particular breeding are as follows:

King
Slot 4: White Inverted Brindle (81%)
Slot 6: Under Cream 4 (85%)
Slot 9: Vitiligo 4 (100%)
Slot 10: Vitiligo 6 (100%)

Lioness
slot 4: Coral Luster
slot 6: white feline unders
slot 9: henna cloud
slot 10: bloodbourne siamese



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Edited on 28/04/18 @ 14:04:09 by CALA (#105146)

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2018-04-28 14:03:55
I'm going to go by the assumption that the criminal belongs in SLOT 4 since it was passed into SLOT 4.

So who wants to have fun scrying White Inverted Brindle with Coral Luster? :D

Say 150 tries? I'll do 150; results will give us 300 combinations from that pairing, so I'd say after that many if we all fail, definitive no for that being a pairing. I'm assuming perhaps a selection of markings all have a 'marker' that will allow it to pass, rather than it just being such and such marking bred to such and such marking (if that makes ANY sense)

After that set combinatin, we then start pairing off the other slots, before we start mixing the slots from the highest value opacities first (since the passed rosette was 96%)



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Edited on 28/04/18 @ 14:08:38 by CALA (#105146)

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2018-04-28 14:14:50
46 attempts on the Coral Luster x White Inverted Brindle produced this:
(markings were in Slot 1)

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Slot 8: Ebony Soft Rosette

Parents:
King
Lioness

Not the slot I was thinking, buttttt...?




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Edited on 28/04/18 @ 14:19:47 by CALA (#105146)

Nezuko[project] (#100297)

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2018-04-28 14:29:36



Got a Sl:6 Onyx Heavy Rosette!

Father was my king, mother was this lady: https://www.lioden.com/lion.php?id=794115970308



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Edited on 28/04/18 @ 14:33:03 by Sansa[1/15GB] (#100297)

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2018-04-28 14:55:53
Thanks, Sansa! x'D Every time I come up with a theory, it gets blown out the water rofl.
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Actual footage of Xylax laughing at my theory fails xD



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Korb (#2663)

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2018-04-28 15:04:54
so there's only been two heavy rosettes found so far? (pls let me know if there's others)

comparing them:
all lions had feline marks (specifically 5 6 7)
at least one parent had vitiligo (specifically 4 5 6)
both pairings had unders + lace (as in one parent had unders, one parent had lace)
at least one of the parent's parents had mottled rosette

edit// after a TON of testing with these parameters I still have no heavy rosette, so I think the colours of the markings and/or placement matters lol



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Edited on 28/04/18 @ 16:09:38 by Risio (#2663)

SimonWho (DoubRos
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Posted on
2018-04-28 15:42:27
Would anyone like to use my soft rosette for scrying?



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