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This is an official clan thread for the Clean Quality Clan!

CLEAN QUALITY
Breeders of clean high stats, muties, & specials
Welcome to Clean Quality! We are a clan of clean line breeders that pride ourselves in breeding for high stats, muties, and/or special bases. The goal of this clan is to connect breeders of all kinds that have a similar goal in mind, and allow them to help one another achieve their goals. There is only one requirement: any lion that is listed as a stud, sold, or traded in this clan must have a clean line!

CLAN PAGESTUD LISTTRADES & SALES

This is the general thread for the clan, and the place for fellow clanmates to introduce themselves, share their breeding projects, connect with others in the clan, etc! This is not the place to list your studs or your sales; those have their own dedicated threads. If you aren't part of the clan yet, but you're interested, feel free to post here as well to inquire about us!

GENERAL INFORMATION
What is a Clean Lined Lion?
There are two requirements a lion must meet in order to be considered a "clean" lion in this clan. First of all, they must not have any instances of inbreeding in their heritage, no matter how far you go back. Second, they must not have any of the big four in their heritage: Keyser Soze, Hot Hot Tater Tot, Boombah, or The Savannah Prince.

What is Special About This Clan?
Clean lined and quality don't often come hand-in-hand; usually one is sacrificed for the other. In this clan, we strive to have the best of both worlds! If you want to participate in this project, you aren't just breeding clean lions; you're also breeding for high stats, mutations, or special bases — or all three, if you'd like!

What is Considered "High Stat"?
High stat has different ranges all over Lioden, but for the sake of this clan:
— Less than 500 is low stat.
— Between 500 and 1000 is medium stat.
— Greater than 1000 is high stat.

What is Considered a "Special Base"?
A special base is anything that is breed-only or applicator-only.

Do Clan Studs Offer Discounts?
While it's not a requirement, it's highly encouraged that people either offer free breedings, or at least discounted breedings, to other people in the clan. This will make it a lot easier to connect with everyone else and achieve our breeding goals. We want this clan to be as connected as possible, and encourage everyone to help out when they can. However, that does not mean you can beg other members for help, or try to bully them into it. Play nice!

SELF-INTRODUCTIONS
Feel free to introduce yourself on this thread however you want. Or don't! It's completely up to you if you want to be social with others or not; just because you're part of this clan, doesn't meant we're going to force you to be socially active. There's no form for your self-introduction, but feel free to introduce yourself with your name, if you have a clean stud, and what your goals are in this clan (if you want to breed for high stats, muties, special bases, or a mix of all three!)

CLAN EVENTS, CONTESTS, ETC
Feel free to message Alex if you're running something you'd like added here!

Free Clean Cubs to Clan Members
Alex is giving away free clean cubs to anyone that's part of the clan. Any cub that's marked "$ Sell (Clean)" can be asked for; I simply ask that you only ask for a max of one cub per week. Also I'm only giving away clean cubs; cubs that are for sale but aren't marked as clean will not be part of this.



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Edited on 13/10/18 @ 20:09:51 by Lady Argent (PUTP Topaz) (#146403)

Alex [CLEAN] (#12117)

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2018-06-19 20:16:35
Reserved, just in case



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Diedre|Clean Quality (#93284)

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2018-06-19 20:33:15
Heya guys, I'm Diedre, an admin of the CQ clan! I'm a breeder of clean-lined, pretty lions. Mine aren't high statters yet (my king is around 500, I'm lazy and don't wanna check). I'm also trying to breed muties and specifically a 1st gen pon.

My stud, Ysmir, will be half-price for clan members!

Anyways, I'm kind of a quiet person - more social when it's one-on-one, so feel free to PM me if you ever want to chat! Also, if you ever see cubs in my sales den, feel free to ask for one!



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Lady Argent
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2018-06-19 20:43:30
Hiya y'all! Argent will work just fine for calling on me. My king is a rolled up boy, and I'm working on breeding clean muties with decent stats. He's still below 300, so it's a bit of a long-term work in progress, lol.

I also am going to be a running a twice-a-week random giveaway that will include clean lions, and is open for donations, so if you ever breed a lion you don't want, but don't want to farm for karma or necessarily sell, I'm always open for donations for that!

My stud - Mikak at present - will also be half-off for clan members. He's not much now - below 300 as I said - but he's not bad looking for all of his newness. I'm usually around so if you have questions, hit me up! I'll be trying to be more active in this clan than I am in the others on my other account, and I don't bite at all!



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Alex [CLEAN] (#12117)

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2018-06-19 20:51:14
Hey guys!

I'm Alex, one of the admins of the clan. Feel free to hit me up if you have any questions or concerns about the clan~

My current king is a gen. 2 clean king (both his parents were custom designed lions by me), with 1800+ stats, penumbra base, celestial mane, and amethyst eyes. I'm offering free breedings to anyone in the clan, unless the lioness is VLF, in which case the cost is half of his normal studding fee (150SB), but I'll try as many times as it takes.

I plan to breed mostly for high stats, but when my next king comes along I'll probably make him a primal, in which case I would then be breeding for muties as well.

If you ever wanna chat, feel free to send a message my way. I like chatting about almost anything :D



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2018-06-19 21:03:09
yo, i'm ash! i currently have a clean king and will be getting a clean stat rep for my heir!! i plan to breed for stats if i dont get a mutie replacer for my heir. my current king, xerxes, will most likely get a stat rep or two identical to him!

breeding to xerxes are half off for clan members! (though you technically have to pay 150sb you will be getting 100sb back since i normally charge 100 sb)

i am very open to chatting if you ever feel bored and get on daily.

you see a clean cub im currently trying to sell and want it? its yours, just pm me please!



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Valelael (#148372)

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2018-06-19 21:21:58
Hello all! I'm Valelael, but Vale is just fine and a little easier to spell.

I'm preeeetty new to Lioden but really enjoying it so far. I'm trying to start right with clean lines and high stats, but I also have a love for camping out in the trading center. It's a problem, not gonna lie. I'm still trying to figure out my playing style with Lioden, especially considering my other games as well. I'm open to chatting but am only on in the evenings.

Thanks for having me! I'm looking forward to seeing what we can all do.



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Diedre|Clean Quality (#93284)

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2018-06-20 15:13:24
Alex, I could make the stud page if you'd like? :)



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Lady Argent
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2018-06-20 15:17:01
So, is it just me, or does VLF cover a pretty wide range of fertilities, honestly? I've been thinking about this lately, that VLF covers everything from a coin toss percentage, to 1%. Like....those aren't remotely the same kind of fertility.

Idk I'm running on 4 hours of sleep, just figured it was a good general conversation starter, lol. Maybe we should specify as a clan what we consider be VLF? Is it just having the VLF general title, or is there a specific percentage wherein we consider that 'true' VLF, for anyone who has VLF-specific studding rules?
See, I made it a genuine topic of discussion with some extra thought!



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Diedre|Clean Quality (#93284)

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2018-06-20 15:20:05
Hmm.... the way I see it, true VLF's are 15% or less. I figured most people considered that to be the standard when it came to studding? Of course, I've seen rules on 20% gals. For me personally. fert doesn't matter - if it takes me x number of tries, I'm not wasting more energy.



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Lady Argent
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2018-06-20 15:25:40
Fair enough. I've seen people who straight up won't stud with anything considered VLF period, or people who say 30% is too low. I always like to double-check, I just figured since we're all probably going to be studding to each other at least occasionally, maybe having a clear-cut, clan-wide definition of VLF could be useful? We have a definition of high stat for instance, so it can't hurt.

Maybe it's because I've only been kicking around for two months, it seems like VLF is one of those definitions that like 'High Stat' people tend to define for themselves.

And obviously there's a difference between not studding with an unrevealed VLF and a revealed one, I am always assuming the fertility is revealed. I personally don't have rules on VLF period other than that it BE revealed - if she's a 9% fert, I wanna know that going in so I know how much energy I might be using. I'll still do it, but at least I go in expecting to fail a lot.



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Alex [CLEAN] (#12117)

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2018-06-20 19:11:25
That's true, I didn't even think about that lol. For me personally, I consider anything less than 20% "one of those" VLFs, as they seem to throw the most failures. Anything higher than that I seem to have good odds with, so I tend to forget VLF technically goes all the way up to 50%.

What do you guys think is a fair average? Or should it just be a player-by-player ruling? (I'll add that to my rules, that only <20% will charge a stud fee).



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I mean, if we do a clan definition like with high stat, I'd think the <20% seems fair. If someone has any higher VLF rules, probably <25%? My main account has several <20% VLFs and MANY in 40-50% range, so I'm used to asking studders what they consider a VLF, and I get a LOT of answers that vary wildly.

I think probably more than three of us should have opinions on it, but I'd be okay with either choice. I just think that whichever way it's decided, it should be said that it's whichever way. Since we've given a clan definition to high stats, which is another highly person-to-person kind of thing usually.
Also Alex I am kinda laughing at how much trouble that poor girl is being, I am so sorry, lol. I usually get 40+% girls in like 3 tries, she's just not being cooperative apparently.



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Alex [CLEAN] (#12117)

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2018-06-23 19:30:52
I'll mark down that < 20% in this clan is considered VLF :D If anyone else has any opinions regarding this, they're free to speak up about it; same thing regarding the stats. I listed when I think is a good margin for stats in terms of low, medium, and high, but if anyone else has an opinion about it, feel free to say something!

It's always better that we agree with things like this, than have confusion between everyone.

Anyway, I would like to share two new clean lions that came into my pride recently; feel free to also share off any beauties you guys have :)

First off is this piebald boy. He'll be sex changed just before he turns 2. I plan to breed him (soon-to-be her) to a clean piebald king, so anyone knows of one, let me know! Any piebald cubs that are born will be put into a raffle for the clan, so any clean mutie breeders hopefully you'll have something to look forward to :)

I also got this clean girl out of my custom lioness today and she's so pretty. Can't wait to breed her!



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Lady Argent
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2018-06-23 19:35:58
Oh, those are both delightful little ones! I suppose that means I can gush at all of you about the wonderful surprise I got when I logged in and rolled over this morning.

I CRBd a chased lioness a couple of days ago, and bred her. Didn't expect anything much of it - maybe another foldie, y'know? I've bred 2 already - but when I logged in, I found myself blessed with this little guy! I can safely say that a little conjoined darling was not what I expected to ever breed! He's immortal now, and I'm gonna probably make his feline marking to 100% opacity and give him a nice background and some decor, but I like how much like a kitten he looks. One of 52 in-game, and he's clean as a whistle!



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2018-06-25 07:30:53
I am a terrible person who vanished for like three days

Sorry all! Some fun bit of new though - I caved and bought myself a 3DS and pokemon ultra moon



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