Posted by suggestion: dynamic lighting [171/4]

shaska (#10784)

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Posted on
2018-06-29 14:34:07
i checked to see if this has been suggested before, and i didn't see anything?

anyways this is what i'd hope is a simple addition, just colored overlays onto lions to make them fit into different backgrounds better. it's only for aesthetics, and wouldn't impact any other aspect of gameplay. we already have something similar in explore:

daytime
light_leopard

nighttime
dark_leopard

and i'm suggesting something similar for lions in your den. as an example, here are onyx and apricot on the dynamic jungle background during the day:

light_onyx
light_apricot

both look fine, right? lioden's backgrounds are stunning and the sprites fit gorgeously into them. however, the difference is a bit more pronounced on the blue-toned night version. lioden's linearts are a warm brown, which makes for an interesting contrast

dark_onyx

that becomes even more pronounced on warm light bases

dark_apricot

EDIT: ok i just realized these are the wrong night backgrounds but you get my point i think
the lion still looks like it's sitting in full light, even though the surroundings are dark and cool toned. here's the apricot base with a simple blue overlay on low opacity. i just chose a color from the background and laid it on top of the entire lion, there was no recoloring or adjusting of individual layers done:

dim_apricot

details
- like all good aesthetic changes, it should probably have a toggle to switch it off for individual people if they don't like how it looks
- a simple dark blue tone to be added to existing static night bases, and hopefully to dynamic ones when they switch into night
- i'm hoping for at least just a night version, but maybe we could have more to fit various lighting situations?
green_apricot
dynamic jungle daytime

bleeding
bleeding world wildlife

cloud
cloud forest

ice
ice cave

sunrise
morning marshlands

and maybe some more complex lighting?
championships
sunrise over the championships

i'm not expecting all of these to be added (though maybe having coordinating lighting could become a trend for new backgrounds released), but it's just to show how the lion sprites could potentially become even more a part of their surroundings. i know it's not a super pressing addition, but i think it'd be nice to see at some point in the future?

suggestions
Wisherwasher (#559) - item to buy in oasis, an add-on like cub stages?
πŸ¦“ E-quagga πŸ¦“ (#125256) - a few lighting situations to be sold as different, equippable decor-like items in monkey business? could you code these decors to be dynamic and cycle with day and night?



This suggestion has 390 supports and 12 NO supports.



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Edited on 14/06/20 @ 08:06:24 by Shaska (#10784)

Karmo (#98909)

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Posted on
2018-06-29 14:39:22
Full support.
It would make the game feel more alive ^^



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WisherWasher (#559)

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Posted on
2018-06-29 14:55:25
Support, I was thinking the exact same when viewing backgrounds yesterday. I like how the examples are subtle enough to still be able to properly view the lions, but still effective enough. The sunrise example is my favourite, though. I'd even be OK with buying it in the Oasis, like the cub stages. Though, I can't speak for others on that.



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shaska (#10784)

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2018-06-29 15:01:11
i was considering whether or not dynamic lighting was extra enough to be considered as an item to buy and add on? i'm not sure. i'll add it to a list of suggestions though!



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Blue Pigeon 🐦 (#68580)

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Posted on
2018-06-29 15:13:42
Very intriguing suggestion. I like it!



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E-quagga [Side] (#125256)

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Posted on
2018-06-30 04:26:05
Y e s. Something like this would be super!
I once considered submitting something similar, but forgot about it until seeing this. My idea was for different overlays to be available to buy in MB or another year-round shop, for cheap, since they'd just be nearly-transparent rectangles. Wouldn't be quite as matchy-matchy as overlays for all the different bgs, and wouldn't cycle with dynamic bgs, but my thought was that if it was equippable like an item, you could choose which of your decor you wanted it to also tint, so you could leave some 'in shadow' to really set up a scene, just like we can do now with other 'weather condition' decors like moonlight or fog.
Man I'd love a more subtle moonlight effect

I do wish there could be a cycling tint for the dynamic bgs. Making them look right in both day and night really can be challenging. I wonder if it would be possible to code an item to cycle? That would be neat. And open up possibilities for even more . . . I really like your sunrise effect. Imagine if we had a dynamic shadow-highlight overlay? I'd slap that on so many lions. Well, whenever the lack of highlight and shadow on decor didn't look too weird. Again, it wouldn't be as specific as a coded-in effect for each bg - which is too bad since inevitably the light source would come from the wrong place sometimes - but it might be more feasible for the artists to implement, say, a dozen lighting effect items than give each bg a unique set. If anything at all comes to be, I'll be a happy clam.



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Edited on 30/06/18 @ 04:29:17 by πŸ¦“ E-quagga πŸ¦“ [S (#125256)

shaska (#10784)

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Posted on
2018-06-30 07:57:17
i'll add your thoughts to the suggestions! i had also wondered what to do with all of the decors. it seems easiest to either make the lighting ignore decors, but that might look odd- then again, maybe not with how subtle the lighting is. another option would be to just made the lighting cover the entire image, decor, lion, and background. that might alter the background color a bit, but again, not too much. thanks for your support!

EDIT: in reference to the "could you even code these things to be dynamic" i don't think it would be an issue. after all, they already have the infrastructure for how to do it with the dynamic backgrounds, right?



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Edited on 30/06/18 @ 08:01:59 by Shaska | SF | (#10784)

πŸ₯€ (#12402)

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2018-07-13 09:51:19
I also would like it has a one purshase like the baby cub stages. Or could have a duration of 30days, working for all lions in your pride.
Could be a decor but that makes it less interesting, for me.. I have a big pride Would make me sad to see that cool realistic effect on some only hehe



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Miles (#146777)

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2018-08-20 04:17:56
I full on support this. The idea that it's buyable like cub stages is a good idea too to me, given that it would be some effort to implement this. So I'd see this as a nice way to pay it back if added!



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opal (#278932)

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Posted on
2022-12-21 17:27:47
I love this idea!



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