Posted by Locust base

Ely | Aiónios
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2018-09-07 12:49:13
Locust base is the newest base in the red group, introduced as a red medium solid common. Now, this would not be an issue, save one small detail: Locust is an applicator base. As of August tenth, our base rarities got updated to common, uncommon, rare, and special. Here is what defines a special base: "Special" bases are what those difficult-to-breed bases are now categorised as. These include applicator, non-common combo, and raffle-exclusive bases such as Cairngorm, Celestial, Haze, Lilac, Orchid, Pulsar, etc. Did you see it? These include applicator... So, according to the genetic rules, Locust should be a special, just like fuchsia, another craftable base app. Admin response was that they liked the idea of a common applicator, however that would cause confusion, which is what the new rarities were added to avoid.
TL; DR: Locust should be a special, not a common.
If you don't support, please tell me why.



This suggestion has 116 supports and 40 NO supports.



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Edited on 07/09/18 @ 12:50:20 by Ely | ₩endigo (#107976)

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Posted on
2018-09-07 12:52:19
I don't support because I can see why it's common. Locust wings are very easy to come by this event and honestly I think it's a nice change to have some variety with applicators genetics. ^-^



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Ely | Aiónios
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2018-09-07 12:55:09
The issue though is that applicator bases are supposed to be special. The reason I see an issue is because it can cause more confusion again over applicator bases. All app bases are supposed to be specials, no matter the number.



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Posted on
2018-09-07 13:11:55
Agreed with Mortemire



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Starburst [Side] (#148942)

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Posted on
2018-09-07 13:29:26
Maybe the definition of a special base could be changed to most applicators instead of all of them



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Blue Pigeon Side (#69012)

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2018-09-07 13:35:30
Support. I think that people forget that common bases are known as that because they are meant to be common. App bases are not common by the very nature of them needing to either have parents with that specific base or have that base applied to them using an app received outside of the Oasis.
I feel that this has become more prevalent lately with combo bases (which are not common in the slightest) also being put in this group and I honestly can't understand why. Common bases should be bases which don't have special breeding rules attached as that is one of the reasons why they are common.



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2018-09-08 09:12:03
I made a thread about this before I realized that you had already made one; I flagged it for deletion. XD This is what I had to say:
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Support!
(And feel free to quote me since mine is kind of a TLDR version of yours. utdryfcgvjhbk)



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Edited on 08/09/18 @ 09:15:02 by Asher (#123346)

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2018-09-08 09:18:13
i believe it is a nice change. like its been said wings are easy to come by in this event. its too easy to make to really think of it as a special base. Other apps have a lot they need to be crafted and a lot of it. This one doesn't so why does it need to be special because if it was the market would be overrun just by the fact it was special when really its easy to make anyway.



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🅱️oneless (#123346)


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2018-09-08 09:19:25
Personally I'd feel like I wasted my time making a whole app just for the Locust base to be Common



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Wolfie 🐺 (#142778)

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Posted on
2018-09-08 09:21:45
No support

It's a locust base. There are locust swarms. They spread like wildfire, as will the base.


Besides, you can get wings pretty easily.



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fluff (#145767)

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2018-09-08 09:23:46
like its just for the base. an easy to make base should be common. the only way i'd want it special if it was harder to make. i personally like the base anyway i'd breed it just for looks.



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2018-09-08 09:24:15
I support but maybe it should be uncommon rather than special. It has been stated before my post that locust wings are pretty easy to get and it might be easy to craft the base but it still shouldn’t be common. Uncommon I feel is a better title for it because it’s not common but it’s also not special.



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Edited on 08/09/18 @ 09:24:31 by CrystalClaw Scar Collector (#144661)

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2018-09-08 09:25:05
Y'all are missing the point. The issue isn't with the base rarity itself, it's with the fact that ALL applicator bases are, defined on the wiki, "Special" genetics. This one shouldn't be given the "Common" genetics just because it's easy to make. Applicators are, by literal site definition, SPECIAL. Not COMMON.



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Ely | Aiónios
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2018-09-08 09:25:31
We can get the wings easily, yet chances are, we get the marking app or a small chance for locust base. And it will most likely be 50+ wings to craft to account for the number of wings. And would you really want another common that will be a pain to pass, like cloudburst?



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Starlands (Side) (#144661)

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2018-09-08 09:26:28
I see your point there Typhon. Every applicator vase is defined as special genetics so why is this one left out?



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Posted on
2018-09-08 09:29:35
I agree that it shouldn't be common... All I have to say about those who have said the Locust Wings are too common in this event... This is the only time during the year that Locust Wings will be easy to find. Along with the other month with Cheetah Skulls, etc. I personally believe that the base should at least be Uncommon or Rare, if not special. Or as Asher said, the base could be an NCL only base, but the markings could be the only thing craftable?



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