It doesn’t make sense having them gain stats when they already have the stat gain during hunting, specially when there’s a “mass leveling” tool players can buy and that’d abuse the gain of stats through leveling up

The point of getting high stat heirs is to have a challange and some people are recognized by their stat breedings for that reason, you have to earn your stats

so it’s a no support from me, sorry

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It wouldn't be an abuse at all, you'd just be leveling them up at the same time. It specifically says: "Mass-levelling will allow you to level up all lionesses in a cave that are eligible in a single click." Only the eligible level up. It's the same as doing it manually, just more convenient.

That may be true, but when you breed a lioness with a 1-2k stat king and get a great cub with only 200 stats and it's your best heir option visually, this is ridiculous. The lionesses only gain 1-3 points per hunt, and that's every half hour. You'd have to be on lioden 24/7 every 30 minutes in order to gain significant progress, thus my frustration with the useless level up. Seriously, why do we even bother leveling up our lionesses? You don't earn anything for leveling up. Might as well leave them level 1.

But I am just clarifying why I think this is needed, I respect your choice to not support it. It's just an idea anyway. :3

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I support. It does seem really weird that there isn't any way to make better progress with lioness stat gain. People talked about lionesses gaining stats really quickly but even hunting every hour I'm awake I don't really see any progress until they're close to 7 years old and even then it's only in the 500-600s.

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It's easy to get an ncl to 1k stats from hunting alone. Stats should remain challenging. There are plenty of stat items and stat gaining events. (:
So. No. Support

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NCL? They can start as low as 90 - they're the absolute worst if they have good markings and you're trying to get an heir. I agree that stats should be challenging, but they're really almost pointless with lionesses. I'm not asking for a big upgrade, like I said just 6 points, one for each stat area. Leveling up already gets harder as their levels go up, so it's still a challenge, you would just actually get a reward for spending your time on it, just like your king. Right now there's no benefit to the mass leveling tool because it's all for show. Yeah you can have a level 14 lioness but her stats can be really low, especially for NCLs since they start at 90-100 and are often found in the middle of their lifespan instead of cubs which you could train up all their life.

As far as items go, not everyone is lucky enough to get a honeycomb every day and only a few items are high up in chances of getting +1 stat. I have over 30 lions and I get maybe five +1's even with small turtles, ect being fed. It's not a guarantee unless you're buying honeycomb ect. and not everyone can afford to do that. And, really, why waste those items on the lionesses when they can be put towards your king?

Thanks for your input. It's helpful actually to explain why I didn't mention these things earlier.

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Stat cubs market is shit as it is. 600-900+ stat cubs go for around 300 to 600 SB.. Sometimes more depending on bases and all. It's just going to ruin the stat economy even more jus sayin. Back then 700+ stat cubs alone went for 1 gb or somethin.

6 stats per level up is still alot... Mhm.. If they're gon add stat gaining features with leveling up.. Make it rare.. As possible.. Say 1 to 4 stats randomly at any level up.. Otherwise.. Yeh nu nah

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lol Okay now, tone it down. This isn't an argument, it's a discussion. Also, there is no such thing as an economy on Lioden unless you're buying something from the event shops. I think everyone on the site knows that every price is an opinion. Lioden chose not to dictate prices, letting members trade what they want for something they need/see of equal value, for example I don't think any base applicator should be above 10GB depending on circumstances, but people throw them out for 30GB. Economy isn't quite the right word, it's more of free-for-all. If Lioden ever decides to put actual prices in place then you could use that term, but for something as fluctuating as people's opinions/demand for an item, I don't think that's accurate.

It's really not, considering kings get about 10 points per level up, and when adolescents trained to 100% can gain 80 stats going into adult. It's actually quite reasonable. I was going to say 5 originally but I think one for each is more reasonable.

I can obviously see you're against this idea, but could you perhaps be less... rude? It's hard to respond to someone who's being sarcastic and a bit snarky over an idea that has an 80% chance of never even being seen by the admins like any other opinion. Don't take it so seriously.

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Um.. I'm not being.. Rude.. Or arguing lol.

Anyways good day dear

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Thank you for your opinion.

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Support, and agree w all your points, Shakester. 6 per level up will break the stat economy? I don't think that has much supporting it. When most people only hit lvl 10-15ish, this suggestion - if implemented - wouldn't even an additional 100 stat points. lol Not to mention you'd end up with that with fairly old lionesses who are near the end of their lives. And if people DID want to speed level their lionesses, that's still (for example) 1-2gb per giant tort or 1gb per sped up hunt. Not breaking the economy at all.

A possible solution if you want to change it to be "fairer" to the economy, make the level up boost possible be between 2-6 and go into Skill, as Skill doesn't pass to cubs?

edit: just realized I replied on my side.

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Lionesses used to gain their stats when they leveled. I am not exactly sure when this changed but it was a change they made some time ago.

Edited to add: I think this change was made around the time they allowed people to to add additional hunts for lionesses. Before you could only ever hunt a lioness 10 times. Shortly after adding the replenish hunts option they changed the stat gain for lionesses to be per hunt instead of when she levels.


:) if I am remembering correctly, could be wrong.

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Interesting. If that's the case, that's a huge downgrade for lionesses, and I even more so hope they change it "back". Not everyone has the time or SB/GB to spend speeding up their hunts, so I really think that would be/was a poor choice.

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Support, because, honestly, what's even the point in lionesses having levels right now, if they don't do crap?

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it does seem to be a downgrade, I agree. however, I think that possibly the level up going mostly/solely into Skill could be a possible solution to those who stat train and would be upset over the possibility of richer people maybe refilling hunts and such to get tons of stats extra? on the other hand, I currently have a lvl 27 lioness who is very old and had about 5-10 hunts a day used while she was with me and that's still only 162 stats; doesn't seem insanely high to me.

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I sort of agree, except if skill doesn't pass on to cubs then it would be counter-productive to level up one stat that doesn't count towards her cubs - If you want the stats of the cub to be reasonable compared to the mother and father, you need the level up to pass on points that matter.

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