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2019-02-03 18:23:10

My heart is set on this.
It just makes sense to add this title, along with "Achillean," because "Sapphic" is already in the game. "We don't need gay label titles" just... isn't relevant anymore

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The "Sapphic" title exists. It describes a female who's into females. I like it. It was a kind thing to add to the game~
The "Achillean" title should exist. It describes a male who's into males. I like it. It'd be a kind thing to add to the game~

"Diamoric" is a similar term to those two. It "describe[s] relationships that are neither gay nor straight because of the involvement of at least one nonbinary person [ for example, an NB person + a man in a relationship wouldn't fit as either because their genders are neither "opposite" nor "the same"]. It can also be used for nonbinary individuals who are neither gay nor straight and want to highlight this, or their prioritization of relationships with nonbinary people." (Source)
In case you are confused or unaware about what a nonbinary person is, please click here before asking about it.
How would it be unlocked? I was thinking that doing either of the criteria for unlocking "Sapphic" and "Achillean" would unlock it; whichever you do first unlocks it! I value input about how to unlock it, because I'm not sure about this one! Click to see some other thoughts I had, and feel free to comment on them.

Further clarification about the all of the terms here!

"Diamoric" -- or a related term* -- can be implemented as a title that one can adopt, alongside Sapphic and (hopefully) Achillean!
It'd be a kind thing to add to the game~


If you don't support for reasons other than the ones I already countered in the post below, lemme know! I want to work to make this suggestion optimal~

If you have any questions, see this

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*Alternatives to Diamoric: Cypric, Adonian/Adonic, Enbian. The last one is the only one that doesn't have a Greek theme to it




This suggestion has 462 supports and 120 NO supports.



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Edited on 17/03/19 @ 19:46:18 by _ (#125883)

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2019-03-14 15:21:36
hugs for everyone on the thread



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_ (#125883)

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2019-03-14 15:29:23
<3



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pretzelbear🥨 (#159405)

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2019-03-17 13:17:12
Hey everyone, I was just wondering what is the difference between sex and gender? I was raised by a christian family and we didn't talk much about these things, I just want to know so i can support!



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2019-03-17 13:26:57



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2019-03-17 14:00:10
I think those of you advocating for this change would have more success convincing people who might otherwise not support it if you avoided strawmanning. Someone suggesting there are only two sexes or genders is not the same as being hateful or invalidating towards LGBT people. The reality is that many of these "other" gender categories found in ethnographies of non-Western societies were created for people who did not conform to a society's strict gender roles, were gay or lesbian, or were considered to have "failed" at being a man or woman (or some combination of the three). I'm not sure that's something that should be perpetuated.

Right now you risk creating an us vs. them situation in which people who chose not to support aren't going to comment to explain why because they don't want to be labeled bigots.



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Edited on 17/03/19 @ 22:37:30 by Mebsuta 🐪 (#157216)

🐊 Mutt (#3901)

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2019-03-17 14:03:16
I mean...is there a reason to not support this?
If you don't like the title, just don't...use it?

It literally does 0 harm for these things to be put into the game.



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2019-03-17 14:05:27
Thanks for the info! Support :)



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🌙 PyxelPanda
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2019-03-17 14:08:08
Woop! I totally support this, even though I'm not LGBTQ+. I think people should be whoever they want and I think they should be proud of who they are!



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2019-03-17 14:13:13
I can just delete this. I'm having a really hard time right now, and the replies to this thread never help. This is obviously never going to be implemented.

Thoughts?



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pretzelbear🥨 (#159405)

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2019-03-17 14:14:44
Now that I am properly educated, I fully support this! We need to be all-inclusive and this helps with that :)



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🐊 Mutt (#3901)

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2019-03-17 14:23:55
i'd honestly really like these titles. :S

hopefully there won't be a fuss if this does get implemented.



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2019-03-17 14:47:24
@Mutt, I just explained why. You can take me as an example. I identify as female, have female biology, and have never thought of myself as anything else, but I have masculine interests, an androgynous style of dress, and I'm going into a male-dominated field. People today might recognize this as GNC, even if I don't use that label personally. However, there are people out there who would tell me I'm transmasc, non-binary, or even that I'm trans--I just haven't realized it yet. Instead of broadening our ideas of what men and women are allowed to do, we're creating separate categories for people who don't conform to gender stereotypes and encouraging them to use these labels. Do you see why someone might have a problem with this?

@OP, I'm genuinely sorry you're having a hard time, and the last thing I want to do is cause anyone any sort of distress, but I do believe there should be room for different opinions and disagreement. All of the responses to your suggestion have been positive and supportive. Mine is the only one I've seen that could be construed as anything else, so I don't fully understand what you mean.



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_ (#125883)

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2019-03-17 14:48:30
I would really rather you just drop your opinion here and then leave, @Meb.



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Luxaeus [hiatus] (#80752)


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2019-03-17 14:51:33
I don't think saying "this is obviously not going to be implemented" is going to do anything.

Lioden has put in plenty of LGBT+ stuff so I wouldn't doubt that this won't be implemented at all. Sure, it may take a few months, weeks, or days, it doesn't matter. What would be the point in deleting this? It won't be implemented if you delete it.



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2019-03-17 14:52:17
So that I'm not dealing with people anymore.



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