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2019-02-08 15:42:01
TOGGLE LIVE CHAT (or have it auto-refresh on a timer).
Toggle live chat is straight-forward, to auto-refresh on a timer I recommend 3-7 seconds. Sort of like both chats combined. Also to have a refresh button, still.



Katze (paraphrase): "It will be better when chat calms down and gets used to it"
I disagree because: Even with non-live chat, I still was struggled to be heard often in certain hours of the day because it was going too quickly. People talk a lot.

Player in chats say:
"Like when it gets busy, and you can't do anything to catch up, so if you're talking to someone then it's a little pointless"
"It is lagging my phone/device"
"I cannot connect to the chat"
"I cannot read it"


Why you should support the idea of having it toggled:
1) People who do prefer this will have the option to have it, still.
2) People with dyslexia, or other disabilities which affect reading will still be able to read chat, and when they are ready, re-fresh

Why you shouldn't not-support the idea of having it toggled:
1) If you really like this new chat, you would be able to still have it.
2) The only reason I would be able to see people not-supporting is if they don't understand, or they are evil (OwO).
The point of having it toggle-able is so that people who are slower-readers can still read chat. Here, let's give you an example.

I can read chat. I am a quick reader. Call me "A"
"B" can not read chat because they are not the best or quickest reader.

A can read both slow chat and live chat.
B can not read live chat, only slow.

So, there is only a loss to be found by this new update, not a gain. As can read both types of chat, B cannot and struggle.

Just because you can does not mean others' can.

#ToggleLiveChat


"There is a hide button"
Wow! Nice that you noticed that. Well, here is the thing. Some of us don't want to have to exclude ourselves just because of an update. :)




"I really want a toggle for this, or just end it.

As someone who isn't a native English speaker, it's killing me just trying to read messages before they disappear. People are saying it'll slow down, but lioden does have its busy hours.... So it'll be quick more than just right now.
Having to scroll down just to catch up isn't fun and it prevents me from communicating with people on here. The refresh button was wonderful to have, as I could read at my own pace.

I would have approved of the live chat if it actually stopped pushing messages down and refreshing so I could catch up. It still disappears after so and so many messages, which means that I can't keep scrolling down forever."

"Please. I know it's only been up for a little while, but it's horrible. I used to only use the side chat for a reason, and that was because it didn't auto-refresh. People keep talking about how "people just don't like change" in chat as a response to others saying that chat literally won't load or the quickly changing colors and messages are disorienting and... No. I'm definitely not opposed to change, I just don't like chat being totally unreadable for me, lmao"


Personally, I have noticed another thing:
I might want to scroll down on a post, such as this one, and miss out on a huge chunk of chat. I get that, it's going to happen even with the old chat, but I like to start from the bottom to the top, however, doing that now, since it is live and only has so much space, those bottom messages go away, and as I try and read up all of the messages just sink into a void and I don't want to skip ahead...



This suggestion has 83 supports and 19 NO supports.



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Edited on 08/02/19 @ 16:27:26 by |Chicken♡Nugget| (#119389)

tsuki [g2 arabica
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Posted on
2019-02-08 15:53:02
Nugget - we are not supporting the complete removal of it.



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Bobtail🐆 (#79288)


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Posted on
2019-02-08 15:53:10
I really want a refresh button. This new chat is too quick and I get very distressed and confused.



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till (#146959)

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Posted on
2019-02-08 15:53:15
I'm more or less just annoyed over the fact I can't connect to the chat- like,, at all- and most of the stuff I do on Lioden is through chat adverts in the art sales so it's e <:))



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Eve (#86921)

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Posted on
2019-02-08 15:54:29
There is the hide option, fixed the lag for me. I dunno, i think its a little too quick to already suggest a change? It did come out like an hour ago, so the hype is real. Just my opinion



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Posted on
2019-02-08 15:57:12
Ashling, like I said, my experience before. It does go fast even without live chat, yes its extreme now, it will not get to an ideal state later like they say.
I am sure of it. People talk, a lot.
So, if you don't want to vote right now, don't. :)
I wanted to be the one making this thread, that's why I jumped on it so soon.

Okay, so not the complete removal: I edited it @sleepy :) I prefer the suggestion on top of this that there should be a toggle button, some of us can't handle it or it lags us, and by toggle I mean toggle live mode, not having to leave chat entirely.

@bobtail, me too.



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Kasperian (#53494)

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Posted on
2019-02-08 15:57:32
Maybe instead of ending it completely, they could only allow one message from each user every 3-5 seconds?



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Posted on
2019-02-08 15:58:07
Ending it completely isn't the suggestion



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Posted on
2019-02-08 15:58:12
@White, I do not like that idea.
Toggle / timed auto - refresh are better.
I will tell you why I don't like that idea.
Youtube Livestreams- sometimes I have a lot to say / longer messages, and I can't fit it all. I hate the cooldown on chat, that is why I prefer the option to toggle / timed auto refreshes (3-10 seconds)

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Edited on 08/02/19 @ 15:59:24 by |Chicken♡Nugget| (#119389)

Esbee 🐝 (#28187)

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Posted on
2019-02-08 16:05:07
Also I hate this ‘connect’ thing because either my internet is just so terrible or it doesn’t work properly in general, but as we speak I can’t even connect



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Posted on
2019-02-08 16:06:53
Yeah, I edited the post let me know what you think !



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Zephyr (#117962)

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Posted on
2019-02-08 16:11:55
I really want a toggle for this, or just end it.

As someone who isn't a native English speaker, it's killing me just trying to read messages before they disappear. People are saying it'll slow down, but lioden does have its busy hours.... So it'll be quick more than just right now.
Having to scroll down just to catch up isn't fun and it prevents me from communicating with people on here. The refresh button was wonderful to have, as I could read at my own pace.

I would have approved of the live chat if it actually stopped pushing messages down and refreshing so I could catch up. It still disappears after so and so many messages, which means that I can't keep scrolling down forever.



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2019-02-08 16:13:37
Yeah, like, on discord it works out because you can scroll but if you're in a server too big you kind of get rolled over, that happens here too! I will add what you've said to the post- you bring up a good point.



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yeehaw country man (#122541)

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Posted on
2019-02-08 16:19:56
Please. I know it's only been up for a little while, but it's horrible. I used to only use the side chat for a reason, and that was because it didn't auto-refresh. People keep talking about how "people just don't like change" in chat as a response to others saying that chat literally won't load or the quickly changing colors and messages are disorienting and... No. I'm definitely not opposed to change, I just don't like chat being totally unreadable for me, lmao



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hot dawg (#146707)

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Posted on
2019-02-08 16:21:20
YES
My whole device was glitching to the point where I couldnt even mod box it and as soon as I hid the chat my phone started working again correctly



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Bezthiel 🍉 (#81210)

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Posted on
2019-02-08 16:21:52
My tablet already wasn't the best, because tbh I don't do anything on it but play LD and scroll through reddit, so this new chat is really lagging my poor little machine. It hangs everytime a new message is posted and, never had this issue before, it's getting really hot now with chat and a timer running...



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