Two years I've been exploring for a Solaris and interstellar app and only got one through the quest but still think it should stay as is

And originally primal was only obtainable via the app
If everything was easy to obtain nothing on here would have any value there is plenty that is cheap and easy to obtain it's only so valuable because it is so hard to get

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You keep comparing to Solaris and Interstellar, but exploring and hoping for the rare chance of picking up a base app isn't the same as being able to craft a mane app. Hell, they aren't even the same type of app. If it's craftable it should be more obtainable and that's all we're asking, especially with how little notice we were given to how much we would need and the low drop rates of shards impacting a casual player's ability to collect the resources needed.

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It is the same exploring and hoping you get enough to craft it

My comparison is it's hard to get just like other items on game

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Support for next year. This year it really wouldn't be fair to those who've already crafted. But it could totally work next year.

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The interstellar quest for me took much less time, effort and currency than incubus. Hell, I never even got seduction myself... I had to buy one. I'm not a hardcore player, but I explore daily and only ground up about 80 shards this month. That isn't even half of what I needed. I'm sure many other casual players can agree this isn't really manageable for everyone.

Seduction is supposed to be a grind-y item, but what everyone is saying that the cost is too much for what it is. If it was a rare base like Solaris or interstellar, then fair enough, but it's a mane app and manes have a very high pass rate. Many many players cannot even get that amount of shards without grinding, setting clocks, buying shards, etc etc. In addition, incubus was said beforehand to be only a few apps of each. How 14 = a few is misleading

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Most crafting takes 30 + items 14 is a few
And I see nothing wrong with a mane app being rare like a special base it adds value everything new that is released can't be super easy for everyone to obtain or nothing on here would have any value not if everyone was able to get multiple copies

Yes I was able to get one being a casual play and it wasn't that hard but did take almost all month
It makes the app valuable regardless of what it does first gen hybrids special bases rare decor regardless of what it is somethings are just harder to obtain seduction is just one of those things

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I'll just quote OP here: "N it doesn't make the mane more "valuable", it can still pass just as often as ANY other mane- all the high crafting requirements do is make it a pain in the ass"

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The app is having the ability to put the mane on any lion you want same as any other app

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Considering how easily it passes, the mane shouldn’t cost this much to buy OR make. 60 GB for a mane app? Seriously? Most mane apps are around 3-5 GB.

Might as well just buy a lion with the mane.

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Hellraiser and diabolic apps are 3-5gb. Seduction needs 14 of those 3-5gb apps. Yes, most craftable things use a lot of items but take note that they are common items and junk that are available all year round. Both of incubus' requirements are only obtainable during October, and neither are common. Shards would take that common description.

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Then buy a lion with the mane the app can still be a rare item just like the gem dusts Rhodonite shards are 30+ GB right now

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"Most crafting takes 30 + items 14 is a few"

Keep in mind that the only apps that cost more items to craft are the Fuchsia aps, a marking app and a base app.

This is different in three key ways: herbs are common all year round, only 6! month exclusive items are required (to craft both, even) and markings and bases show up on females.

This makes them worth more, just overall.

Hell, manes aren't even different between mutations and adols (except tsavo on adols). So the older mane apps have more utility! They can breed Royal, Succubus, and Imperial.

This one breeds Succubus.

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Yes. Things are more expensive out of season. This is 50-60gb in season.

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It's a rare hard to obtain item regardless of what it does so not everyone will get one there are lots of items I am unable to get for many reasons and I think they should stay that way

There will be more rare items here soon and this one will drop in price just as soon as people start mass breeding
Lioden has already stated that they don't plan on making them easier to obtain that they are ment to be that rare

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I might be missing something, but I haven't seen them say anything like that?

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