Posted by Stat Toys Usable on Kings

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Booty💜 (#89370)

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2020-04-02 10:16:16
I bought nearly 100 Stat giving toys in the February event to use for my next king. Not realizing that I would have to use them on my heir before I kinged him in order to even use them

SO here's my suggestion:

Make stat toys usable on kings
It wouldn't effect their mood, and I'm NOT suggesting that they would guarantee the stats it can possibly give, just being able to give them to your king to raise his stats. ATM we can only use stat foods on our king, and most of the stat foods can only possibly give 1-2 stats where as the toys can give 2-3.

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Having a cap on how many you can use per day, at least more than 1 per day since we EXP and IMP items either don't have a cap or have a high cap that still makes it worth using the item

This came out of lack of research from me, I realize that. BUT I don't see why we can't use these specific toys on our king since they have a higher chance to give stats than any other normal toys

Here is a list of Stat items including the toys: https://www.lioden.com/topic.php?id=304429310978



This suggestion has 45 supports and 15 NO supports.



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Edited on 02/04/20 @ 10:26:38 by Scouting for Booty (#89370)

Bezthiel 🍉 (#81210)

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Posted on
2020-04-02 10:18:30
I'd support if there was a limit of 1 per day.

It's approximately the same limit as with a sub, since if you're using 1 every day, then you can only use 1 on account of mood caps.



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Kitsu (#194496)

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Posted on
2020-04-02 10:19:10
The no supporter come out. We need to talk.



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Booty💜 (#89370)

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Posted on
2020-04-02 10:20:36
Can you explain your reasoning? You can use as many EXP items as you want, and up to 50 Dove Feasts a day for your king, I'm just wondering why stat toys would have a 1 a day cap when we already don't have that much of a cap on other uppers for our kings



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Edited on 02/04/20 @ 10:21:07 by Scouting for Booty (#89370)

Roxanne (G1 Seal
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Posted on
2020-04-02 10:21:35
I'd support with a cap as well. If you don't give a limit on stat items, people can just mass buy them and spam them on their kings.



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Booty💜 (#89370)

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Posted on
2020-04-02 10:23:14
Perhaps a cap like the the dove feasts, 50? I feel like 1 a day just wouldn't be worth it to have it at all when you can spam EXP items and gain stats through leveling too



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Roxanne (G1 Seal
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2020-04-02 10:24:37
Perhaps not necessarily 1 a day, but definitely some kind of cap.



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2020-04-02 10:27:11
Added the suggestion of a cap to the original post, as I do see merit in it



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Bezthiel 🍉 (#81210)

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Posted on
2020-04-02 10:30:41
There are caps for the usage of other stat boosting items, and in fact one on using dove feasts.

You can only lose 20% hunger each day, limiting the amount of food a king can consume. There is a hard limit of dove feasts a lion is allowed to use in one day- I can't remember it off the top of my head. You guys say 50, so probably 50

And lions that are in your pride only lose up to 20% mood each day, limiting the amount of times you can play with them to gain stats.

Stats are limited in every way except exp gain, really.



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Edited on 02/04/20 @ 10:32:49 by Bezthiel (#81210)

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Posted on
2020-04-02 10:32:40
I have added that a cap should be implemented with this change, but I think 1 wouldn't make it worth implementing it at all



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Bezthiel 🍉 (#81210)

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Posted on
2020-04-02 10:34:28
I just say 1 because most stat toys give 15-20% mood. You'd only be able to use it once a day on a heir, maybe twice if your personalities don't match at all.



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Myr (#188)


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Posted on
2020-04-02 10:50:50
I'm saying no support for now, I think.

Mainly because toys function pretty differently from food in that they don't expire. So it's possible and indeed easy to stash huge amounts of stat toys like dry palm leaves, unlike stat foods like egg yolks or honeycomb or whatever. So obviously stat toys are already hoarded in huge amounts for heirs already. Allowing their use on kings too would simply double (or considerably more than double, if it wasn't capped at 1 per day) the potential for stat breeders to build up easy stats via toys - so the whole time they're a submale, and then the whole time they're kinged too.

Tbh I just don't think it makes sense to do, given how many things have been specifically implemented in recent years to make huge stat gains more difficult and to keep the stat market relatively balanced.



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Shadow (Main) (#73284)

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Posted on
2020-04-02 11:31:38
I only support with a cap as well.



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Posted on
2023-07-02 03:49:27
I support, maybe a 2-5 cap per day!



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