Posted by -LOCKED - [jul] please change the july storyline or add a tw

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felis✨ (#109642)

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2020-06-27 18:07:57
spoilers for the july storyline below.


i get that it is too late to do a new storyline this year and we don't know if there is or isn't a new one this year, but i am going to assume that we have the same one (if otherwise then this can be deleted). it would be great if we could have a new storyline next year if the storyline is still the same. while i don't have any new storyline ideas, i would be glad to have some help and copy and paste them .

storyline ideas:
please read the lore change that jester has made.



This suggestion has 105 supports and 23 NO supports.



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Edited on 27/06/20 @ 18:23:01 by jaybee✨ (#109642)

glitter (#131432)

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2020-06-27 18:10:42
i don't think the storyline should be changed, but i do think a trigger warning should be put on it.



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felis✨ (#109642)

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2020-06-27 18:12:00
@rainy forest
yes, if they don't change the storyline i also believe that a trigger warning is a must for these types of topics.



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jester [im autistic]
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2020-06-27 18:12:11
I actually have an ongoing lore rewrite for July! I'm not sure if I'm allowed to link tumblr links on the forums as it's disallowed in main, but the tag on tumblr is ld celestial eclipse!

The introduction for it is going to be spoilered but right under this


I'd love to see a July rewrite. The topics of domestic violence and abuse presented in the July storyline are handled extremely inappropriately, and as someone who dealt with themes similar in my home life growing up (and I deal with the consequences of that daily). I'd rather all abuse and incest aspects of it be removed entirely and it just being an overprotective dad protecting his daughter, which is what the rewrite I've been working on is (with some added bonuses)!

This is just a longwinded way to say I support.



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felis✨ (#109642)

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2020-06-27 18:16:16
@jester
i love your rewrite so much! it's way better than what we have, i adore you so much right now.



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☆Andromeda☆ (#141984)

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2020-06-27 18:21:53
Jester is the lore master, LD should hire him as a writer.



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jester [im autistic]
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2020-06-27 18:37:07
Posting again here to say that I recognize the hard work anyone involved in writing the July storyline had to do to publish it as it is. I'm a writer, and I can appreciate the hard work that went into it.

But it fails as a storyline to do justice to the topics it presents. It does not do justice to victims of domestic violence. It does not do justice to victims of familial abuse. Tefnut, Apedemak's wife, is MURDERED in cold blood. Menhit, his daughter, is almost forced to breed with him (he literally wants to r/pe his daughter as he tries to go through with his plan). And one achievement, one ending, is "help Apedemak realize he's just a little crazy"

You do NOT redeem characters like that. Lioden staff tried to write abuse and while I can acknowledge the boldness of their attempt and the hard work in an otherwise beautiful game, I cannot accept the fact that they view this as acceptable. I would be willing to rewrite the storyline for FREE (I'm not kidding. I would willingly volunteer to rewrite this for zero payment and would be willing to sign a legally binding contract + NDA if necessary) just so abuse victims don't have to know that this exists in a game they would otherwise enjoy. I wasn't around for the original July storyline, but I heard players loved Apedemak and that they were disgusted with the direction it took. I understand the achievements associated with the current storyline would probably be wiped, but also, to anyone no supporting, please look past the fact that you may enjoy the storyline and realize that, while it doesn't glorify abuse, it pushes the narrative of having to forgive your abuser for whatever they may have done. Having to associate with your abuser. Having to look them in the eye, day after day.



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2020-06-27 18:55:04
Huge ass support. As a victim of abuse, it disgusts me to see the storyline so badly written like this. And, because of it, this will be the only event I won't be participating in.



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Vee ♥ (#112135)

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2020-06-27 19:03:48
Huge support to Jester’s rewrite. I think it honestly needs to be fixed a lot of parts are super triggering due to my past. My birthday is in July which I always dread to spend on lioden due to the event’s storyline.

Honestly even just adding TW like the OP mentioned works. ❤️



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Edited on 27/06/20 @ 22:40:54 by 💕 Vee 🐝 (#112135)

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2020-06-27 19:31:41
Normally I would say "leave the storyline as is because it's been there for several years", but inc*st is gross and upsetting so...

I can get behind a rewrite, but, ultimately I'm supporting OP for those who are negatively affected.



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Allen 🐾 (#130883)

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2020-06-27 19:38:10
this comes up every year, and the staff team STILL never changes it. It's gross.

Iirc they toned it down last year through rewording some of the interactions, and even in testing it was much, much worse. I just wish they'd understand and scrap it. They could even use the same art, just change the words.



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The Crow (#112292)

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Posted on
2020-06-29 08:06:47
There's already a trigger warning in place for the July storyline.



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The Crow (#112292)

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Posted on
2020-06-29 08:11:43
Maybe the wording could be the same as it is now, but with one small change:

"When the view is clear enough, your ears pick up on their conversation. Apedemak is trying to convince Menhit to join his Skyward project, demanding that she breed with a Celestial male lion to spawn a Divine cub. Upset, she smacks him brutally, forcing him to realise she’s an adult who has her own say in this family."



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GATORBYTE (RUFFIAN
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2020-06-29 08:18:07
Do you have proof that there is a trigger warning in place? I don't think people would be calling for one if it was already in place.



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Butch (#20733)

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2020-06-29 08:32:25
its the worst event, i wish they would realize this, hear us, and do something about it lmaooo. its not necessary. theres other things we can do for july



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2020-06-29 08:33:56
@Butch that’s what I’ve been saying



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