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Posted by | NO Wolvden Hunting |
🛸 Vethale (G2 Bast) (#147289) View Forum Posts Posted on 2020-11-23 14:54:33 |
In october's news update they said they wanted to update the hunting system here on lioden and make it more like wolvden's. Now, the hunting feature definitely could use an update but making it like wolvden would be a downgrade. My suggestion is basically to just leave it as is and here's why: - It's going to make the game even more tedious and add annoying tasks for no reasons. (LD is already high maintenance game that doesn't encourage rolling over unless you have time. No need to complicate it more tbh) - Only females can hunt and lions have shorter life spans (in the game), making the training/leveling process over and over an absolute chore - It hurts smaller prides with less lionesses, since they have to wait longer for energy restoration if they don't have a lot of hunters - It hurts larger prides since lionesses won't catch enough prey - It's a lot more tedious than the current system where you just assign some lionesses and click on the spaces you want to hunt in - It's going to reduce the amount of successful hunts and carcasses caught (1 per hunt) and encourage players to only go for critter trails. An absolute disaster for anyone with more than 10 lions. - Lioden's feeding system (carcasses having having different amounts of uses that give different hunger) is already complicated enough. Especially with feed all being a premium feature. Don't make it more difficult - Starting a single hunt (having to select lions if you don't have enough), the trail and so on just takes too much time. Leave it simple as it already is - It's just not fun. Wolvden may be a more challenging game but lioden doesn't need further challenges. - Please. No. IMPORTANT UPDATE: Xylax clarified that they will only make a visual update and not add party synergy!! Yes!! |
🛸 Vethale (G2 Bast) (#147289) View Forum Posts Posted on 2020-11-24 05:06:53 |
@maucedia (#32469) Even if the success rate stays the same, wolvden's hunting system is incredibly tedious: having to check each wolf's personality to make sure they don't clash? Assign 1 stalker, 3 chasers and 1 finisher, having to chose the trail you're folllwing (which they mention with the prey spotting). It's a downgrade from the simple hunts we have now where you can pick any lionesses and just... hunt. No need to level up qnd all of that. Also, yeah they mention that hunting success will stay the same but considering all of these variables there's no way it won't. Party synergy already implies lionesses not getting along and messing hunts up. Trail spotting implies higher probabilities to succeed for smaller prey. Roles (like chaser, etc. If they add them) also implies proficiency for that role and hunt failure. If not then those additions would be completely pointless and -getting back to my original point- making the game more difficult/complicated for no reason I actually play wolvden and the hunting system is ok for the site (since it's supposed to be more challening). But it really needs to stay there I agree that weather and subzones are cool additions i guess (not really needed but whatever). But everything else isn't. (Apologies for the long text. I enjoy playing lioden and I'd hate seeing it go down the drain with the addition unnecessary and frustrating features tbh) 0 players like this post! Like? |
Mad Hyena (#29080)
Necromancer View Forum Posts Posted on 2020-11-24 06:19:15 |
maucedia, the problem is what admins state, doesn't always turn out to be true from player's perspective. It may seem like same rates from admins' side - but given the new variables all lowering success chances the chances to catch prey will actually crash down. They state hunting on Wolvden is "harder at first, gets easier with experience" - its not just harder, it fails 100% of time at first, hunters NEVER succeed until over 50% proficiency - FIVE days of absolute failure is an entirely unacceptable rate, devastating for newbie packs, but admins don't seem to notice it at all on Wolvden! That is what my other issue is. There ARE issues we players see but admins dont notice them. 0 players like this post! Like? |
Aardvark (#221605)
King of the Jungle View Forum Posts Posted on 2020-11-24 06:21:00 |
a million times support. i honestly can't stand wolvden. i thought it would be like lioden but it's so incredibly tedious it's not even remotely fun. 0 players like this post! Like? |
mau | g1 6k frontal 3ros cel (#32469) Impeccable View Forum Posts Posted on 2020-11-24 06:23:12 |
I see, thank you for the info! Don't really have the time to get into another sim site, so haven't touched WD as of now. In that case, support c: 0 players like this post! Like? |
Charlie|Superstar!🠒« (#171404) Confused View Forum Posts Posted on 2020-11-24 09:27:00 |
Even if i havent touched Wolvden in a while i support this! I feel like the system of hunting we are already given is something im so used to and if they change it i dont think id get comfortable with it. Ive been playing lioden for about a year now and i wouldnt be so happy if it changed 0 players like this post! Like? |
★Rascal4488★[G1 Echo] (#34765) Sapphic View Forum Posts Posted on 2020-11-24 09:54:50 |
Support~! I've tried Wolvden, and enjoyed it, but didn't enjoy it as much as Lioden. I personally really like the simplicity in Lionden's hunting so I was happy to spot this suggestion today! On top of just personal tastes however, I genuinely feel it would be better for the sites to still have a different feel to one another and not have them be exactly the same except wolves/lions. They currently do right now (at least in my opinion), and I think that's better for both sites- they have their own personalities while still sharing plenty of good similarities, keeping them more distinct from one another. 0 players like this post! Like? |
Polaroid, the mfing Pie Lord (#163486) View Forum Posts Posted on 2020-11-24 12:18:31 |
Honestly, I would be ok with seasonal cycles and weather with subzones and prey spotting IF the same current amount of prey is taken in and the subzones are the same or similar with the same amount of prey. It would just be a bit different than clicking different spots you want to hunt in on the map. It doesn't seem like a necessary update, the current system is fine. That being said- I have nearly 150 lions between my main and side account. I just want to collect lions and mutations I like. I don't want to worry about their personalities! Hunting synergy is, in my opinion, a COMPLETE WASTE OF TIME, as is leveling lionesses to hunt with them. Seperate energy is a huge pain for smaller prides. Newbies wouldn't stick around if they couldn't feed their lion prides of like 3 cubs and 2 lionesses. Why would you? And I understand if some things need to be adjusted a bit from the coders' end. But I don't want to see these major changes that the staff is proposing. I've been playing lioden for 2 years now. I am not trying to be stubborn and make life difficult for the mods. But I do not want this site to become like wolveden. Tedious, repetitive, and boring. 100% support. 0 players like this post! Like? |
🛸 Vethale (G2 Bast) (#147289) View Forum Posts Posted on 2020-11-24 13:56:07 |
Adding this to the original post as well: IMPORTANT UPDATE: Xylax clarified that they will only make a visual update and not add party synergy!! Yes!! 0 players like this post! Like? Edited on 24/11/20 @ 13:56:28 by Vethale (#147289) |
Gallifreyaan (#73034)
Sapphic View Forum Posts Posted on 2020-11-24 22:06:41 |
Wolvesofthenight (#101070)
Resurgent View Forum Posts Posted on 2020-11-24 22:16:53 |
If wolvden added more stuff to do before launch I would still be on there... It's so hard to get anywhere on there... The territory is a chore to get because geting enough SC is hard and takes way to long... 0 players like this post! Like? |
Nureyev 🦆 (#30674)
View Forum Posts Posted on 2020-11-25 10:22:17 |
It's the " hunting team synergy, prey spotting, and much more!" that is the issue, not visuals. 0 players like this post! Like? |
🌗Pidge🌓 (#49134)
Special Snowflake View Forum Posts Posted on 2020-11-25 13:00:16 |
That is the reason I am worried, I play this game relax and collect pretty lions. I cannot be bothered to have to go through the hassle that is Wolvden hunting. I make my favourite lioness my hunters, and i don't care about personalities unless it is my main male. It's like when they made it that cubs had to be protected, it just added needless difficulties to the game, it took me so long to get used to these pass changes and even now I sometimes forget to protect cubs. 0 players like this post! Like? |
Wolvesofthenight (#101070)
Resurgent View Forum Posts Posted on 2020-12-01 22:59:14 |
I mean it doesn't even get boring if you know what your doing... I make every lioness a hunter if their not a brood mother or a NCL... I don't give a darn on stats except for my males... I don't need to be given a hassle to kill prey... 0 players like this post! Like? |
Lunar Lords (#86479)
Brave View Forum Posts Posted on 2020-12-10 17:28:49 |
I'm on the fence about this one. I don't want party synergy or to tank success rates. I wouldn't mind scent trails related to prey size but I don't want the territory we can hunt restricted by where our pride lives. 0 players like this post! Like? |
babycakes21 - hiatus (#215205)
Holy View Forum Posts Posted on 2020-12-14 20:10:59 |
I literally haven't been able to log into WD because I don't have the time to keep on hunting, and although it might be fun for some people, I've been really struggling with it, and although some MINOR, VISUAL changes would be a GOOD thing, I don't want anything about the system itself changing. I understand some small changes like seasons, weather and other stuff, but disagree with all the "synergy/energy, biomes, and scent trails" stuff, since although it might seem like a fun addition for some more experienced players, think about the new players who have nothing but 10-20 stat NCLS If you joined LD and that was all you had, would you want these "scent trails" where you could only get these tiny ass critters? NO! Keep the system as it is, but making a few changes to the visuals and weather would honestly be a nice thing to have. Fully support this! 0 players like this post! Like? |