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Posted by | COMBO FACTOR BUFFS WOO |
π» the serval spots (#98320) Heartless View Forum Posts Posted on 2021-07-09 16:07:08 |
Arabica, Qahir, Hellebore, and many more combos, even after existing in the game for years, all have less than 300 lions onsite. Despite their rarity they don't sell for anything at all, pretty much collecting dust in TC or being remarkably low value. In fact, people find combo bases so undesirable that out of the 35 combo bases in the game, not including Basalt, 23 of them are below 750 lions. That's almost 70% of combo bases! It's a sign of significant imbalance. The reason for this is because they're incredibly difficult to breed: With the low passrate of combos and lack of bases on most of these, you can only get a chance to breed it and have it pass from a lioness every few days or weeks rather than every single breeding, which just isn't fair. Assuming all your lionesses have 1 or 2 cubs, you would have to breed 25-50 of them to match a combo's flat 2% (1 in 50) passrate to get a SINGLE one- imagine trying to breed high quality ones or do a project with one. The max non GB territory size is also only 40, so you might not be able to have more than 40 lionesses on hand to do that with. For bases like Cloudburst where you have to sync these lionesses up to wet season, or Squall where getting 40 Unholy lionesses is just utterly cruel, breeding them is resultingly very difficult. Also, with hundreds of bases in the game and many new rares and applicable specials having no actual use- just one base added after another- it's unreasonable that a combo should have only 1-3 bases on each side, hence this topic. I will be tending to tack specials on on the opposite side of lots of commons/uncommons/rares because most kings are special rarity and can enjoy collecting lots of factors, creating good synergy. Lastly, I like when the genetics of factors match the resulting combo, especially in situations like with Citrine (good combo base example) where Kimanjano/Fulvous x Citrine can easily fail to another Fulvous factor to use. All of these traits work together to create a good breedable combo. Basically; some combo bases are really hard to breed and kinda suck. Olive base is included in this but in a separate pre-existing post and so is at the bottom of the topic, please don't forget about it! ARABICA CELSIAN And that's all for combo expansions. Olive was posted ages ago: LINK LINK LINK Other than that, it's all good. The reason I didn't expand bases with not-so-many factors like Elysian and Soul is because their vast popularity and the power of Ice/Ebony outpaces the lack of factors and so keeps them quite alive. Of the bases like Madagascar and Citrine with a 4x4 grid of factors, I think 4 is still too few given the number of bases ingame, but I think that they're still pretty well established and so don't necessarily 'need' a buff. ...I do have ideas though. I have ideas. Specifically I would But that last bit isn't necessary for the expansion topic. |
Fraekincense (#57572)
View Forum Posts Posted on 2021-07-09 16:11:51 |
Verridith [g1 stellar/panda] (#407) Interstellar View Forum Posts Posted on 2021-07-09 17:14:47 |
PLEASE Though I've (and ok I'm biased, I admit it, LMFAO BUT) long though Nadir would be related to Interstellar somehow - it's like... legit stellar but without stars or space dust. XD 1 player likes this post! Like? |
Magnituda [sunrise project] (#198042) View Forum Posts Posted on 2021-07-10 10:41:08 |
Yes, please!!! I could have an Orchid kinged and still be able to breed Black Roses. And mass breed for Orchids! 1 player likes this post! Like? |
Fern [side] (#163971)
Blessed View Forum Posts Posted on 2021-07-10 12:55:58 |
Please add Dhahabi to Mudstone factors. The other NCL exclusives really said "no, you can't sit with us" to their poor sister for no reason 4 players like this post! Like? |
TrollBerserker[PFM] β‘ (#110675) Astral View Forum Posts Posted on 2021-07-22 06:25:41 |
YES PLEASE It's a good way to improve usefulness of some bases without adding new ones all the time. The newwly implemented bases such as Kunzite or Dawn would be perfect for older combos too. 1 player likes this post! Like? |
Maive | 13x BO Dusk Korat (#212299) Angelic View Forum Posts Posted on 2021-07-26 06:35:57 |
Datrandomcat (#166891)
Aztec Knight View Forum Posts Posted on 2022-02-28 13:51:16 |
[ heartbroken ] [ G3 ] (#209190) Graceful View Forum Posts Posted on 2023-07-30 18:40:16 |
My Smog breeding project and Smog heir would like this to be a thing, please :v 1 player likes this post! Like? |
Ezgati~Crazy Panther Lady~π (#28391) Protector View Forum Posts Posted on 2023-09-05 04:11:11 |
I would love to have more options for combos... It is freaking insane how hard is to breed decent combo factors with some BO traits with only 2 options!!! (Yes Arabica, I am looking at YOU!!!) 2 players like this post! Like? |
kingrot | g2 cinna smilus nrlc (#64281) Angelic View Forum Posts Posted on 2023-09-07 17:27:49 |
Tharkenta (#160101)
View Forum Posts Posted on 2023-09-09 13:15:09 |
99,9% support! I just feel like Murk doesn't really fit as an Arabica factor. Not because it's a different genetic, but that base screams 0 players like this post! Like? |
Kazkazimi (#426858)
Heavenly View Forum Posts Posted on 2023-09-09 13:15:44 |
Im okay with add Dhahabi to Mudstone but others.... i think theres too much factors like okay it would be easier to get combo but THIS is the thing to make it hard if we could get so easy all combo then goal to breed combo wouldn't make sense (like im the ones of people who try breed combo for now not successful) everyone would come to them as to normal bases their price would go down etc. OFCOURSE i think it would be nice to add some more factors wich colors/genetic fitt but i wouldn't go so crazy with adding so much factors 0 players like this post! Like? |
π» the serval spots (#98320) Heartless View Forum Posts Posted on 2023-09-09 13:18:38 |
Rime and some other December bases already have this much factors :/ If you read the prelude, most of these bases have under 10 kings and less than 300-400 lions ingame, compared to other BO bases with thousands. "With the low passrate of combos and lack of bases on these you can only get a chance to breed it and have it pass every few days or weeks which just isn't fair. You would have to breed 50 lionesses to reflect its 2% (1 in 50) passrate to get a single one, and the max non GB territory size is 40." This means if you breed 40 lionesses and they all have one cub you won't even hit cumulative combo odds, and for bases like Squall, even getting 40 Unholies is impossible. This needs to change. 1 player likes this post! Like? |
π» the serval spots (#98320) Heartless View Forum Posts Posted on 2023-09-09 13:19:24 |
For example, Jellyfish has 424 kings, which is more than even lions onsite in total including all females for the majority of these older cream combos (Squall has less than 120 alive). 0 players like this post! Like? |
πβ leon (#208511)
View Forum Posts Posted on 2023-09-09 23:41:19 |
combo base breeding fuckin sucks. if they do anything to make it more accessible, i think its a win. MORE people would probably be interested since the combos arent such nightmare, which would actually increase value, even if not necessarily monetary value 2 players like this post! Like? |
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