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SO, I've actually recently done 100 Lion Meat breedings and ~840 CRBs, all last month, so I feel like have enough data to give a guess of an answer to your question. I feel like, if done in January when you can get Lion Meat for 2k SB, it's better to do Lion Meat, as it's worth to do one lion meat versus two CRBs. However, I do think it's better to do 3 CRBs versus 1 lion meat.

For breedings using CRBs or Lion Meats you do NOT want a Piebald king, but a primal king won't have the same negative affect. Look at the roll order here:
Leopon OR Overgrown Fur OR Tigon† ➜ Patches/Piebald† ➜ GMO Cow/Lion Meat ➜ Cotton Root Bark ➜ Fertility/Natural Chance ➜ Lion Scrotum ➜ Primal ➜ Dorsal Fur† ➜ Tigon Boost* ➜ Mukombero ➜ Dorsal Fur Guarantee*

You want a king who's mutation rolls AFTER CRB or lion meat. Piebald rolls before, and might "overwrite" what could have been with your CRB/Lion meat.

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So personally I'd prefer CRB over lion meat, but there is no real best way to do it. I recently bred a first gen pon using CRB, and a first gen tigon using GMO cows on a DU lioness.

You're correct that piebalds mess with the breeding items. thats why my king is a primal instead of a pie so his mutation wouldnt mess with the items, since primal rolls after.

hybrids roll first, so the mutie of the stud doesnt matter for something like a leopon or tigon breeding.

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The chance is random! but i would personally do 200 lion meats. Takes less time, and higher chance of mut than CRB.

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If you mean trying to breed a g1 hybrid, the stud mut doesnt matter since hybrid mut chances ALWAYS roll first. Primals/pies can't 'overlap' a hybrid chance if thats what you wanted to know

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It wouldn't affect the mukombero! muks always give a 100% chance of 1 cub in the litter having a ferus cub, doesnt matter what stud is used.

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You can stud to mutie or non-mutie kings for hybrids, it won't affect anything! the chance of a g1 hybrid is rare and there's nothing to raise that except of course things such as lion meat, gmo etc but those items raise the chance of any mutation. Mutated studs dont affect the hybrid passrates either

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of course

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Does anyone know whether or not a 1st gen hybrid can occur when studding your lioness out to other kings can happen? I’m currently mass breeding through studding to try and get all the pies and patches but it’s recently occurred to me that I might be damaging my chances of getting a hybrid? Or does that not really matter?

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If you have a mukumbero'ed lioness studded to a piebald king, and since the pie rolls first, would it affect the mukumbero?

And I see people everywhere saying how they must stud to non-mutie kings for their gons/pons? is it different for the random g1 chance and a hybrid normal passrate?

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Thank you!

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