This would be amazing!!

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yes please, I want to see more of them (especially melas) but they aren't valueable enough to warrant a lion scrote :(

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we need this!!

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I'm newish to Lioden, and I assumed Achromia would be hereditary. I'm actually really surprised that it's not!
In real life it's often a recessive gene, requiring 2 parents to carry the gene to pass it on.
Albino is also in lioden, I don't understand why they aren't connected. Eg. Albino base has a small chance of producing Achromia, or Achromia lions/lionesses being able to produce albino base, eyes, or full Achromia cubs.

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You know it's funny because lioden recently REMOVED that. Anyway, here's my take.

Albinism and melanism are genetic. So you guys are right, the recessive gene idea makes sense. You would also have to factor in partial melanism and albinism. I don't want to give any misinformation on what those are because I'm not entirely sure myself.

Albinos lack melanin, which protects their bodies from sunlight. They have a higher chance of developing melanoma. This would probably prevent them from being able to hunt. I assume melanism means they have too much of that pigment.

I got nothing else to say for albinos, but here's some related stuff if you wanna listen to me ramble. I would love to elaborate for anybody who needs it <3

Y'all already covered the gene part, but I want to add onto that. I've been thinking for a long time that lioden should add bloodline mutation. For Example: A piebald produces a normal cub. That cub has a chance, albeit a smaller chance, to pass on that gene. Normal lions can carry mutations in their blood, and although it may skip a few generations, it can come back up. I also think it'd be pretty cool if we could see their gene chart, where we can look and see any traits they have. It could range from possible offspring's fur/eye colors to a few possible chances for mutations, and their parents could be totally normal lions. Granted, the chance would be about the same as a tigon producing a cub with her mutation, but at the same time, her normal cubs also have that chance. And through each generation the chance gets weaker.

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@Falcon
Achromia and Melanism NEVER passed down to the cubs unless you used Lion Scrotum. There was never a mechanic that allowed achromia and melanism to pass down, if you had a melanism or achromia cub born from a parent with it without using lion scrotum - you got lucky on random mut roll from fertility.

As for the suggestion - no support. Piebald and patches mutations are losing their value daily due to them passing down from parents and there being too many. Having achromia and melanism pass down would fuck up the lion market even more than it's already fucked, especially with the Tree mechanic that was changed to not remove mutations from abandoned cubs.
Another thing - Lioden is not Wolvden. We do not need the same mechanics in the game, even if they are sister games. It's two different games and it should stay two different games.

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Khajiit

Piebald/patches value is sinking not because it's heridatery. It's because there is too many MODs in the game since last Black Friday.

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Magnituda, I've played this game since 2015, even when the mods first came out and people sunk a lot of money to get a lot of them from the Black Friday sale they still were worth something, and the pie/patch prices were somewhat at stable level. It's the amount of players that added to the fact they sink down, sure. And many other things that add more layers to it.
Thing with melanism and achromia is that at least melanism is somewhat rare and you can get it only either by random chance or by using lion scrotum on a melanism lioness. Achromia is pretty much worthless at this point.
Having them pass down will only make achromia even more worthless and will tank the prices of melanism.

We also have a lot of actual passable muts, like primal and variants, OG fur, piebalds and patches, hybrids and dorsal fur. Making another two passable will tank the prices of those mutations as only hybrids are still worth something from the ones I listed. It will also tank prices of Lion Scrotum which is already tanked too.

Yes, having more passable mutations would be "fun" for people, as they could get mutated lions way easier, sure. But the whole point of mutations was to be a fun surprise you didn't expect to happen/didn't have somewhat guaranteed to happen at one point due to it passing from parents without use of items.
Having those two pass would also cause a lot of people to be disgruntled over the fact that their somewhat valuable lions (melanism) would lose that value.

And my most important point - Lioden is NOT Wolvden. The game code is different, the mechanics are different. Achromia and melanism are and were coded to appear RANDOMLY and only pass with use of Lion Scrotum. Passable muts were coded to be passable from the start and to not use Lion Scrotum.

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Piebald/patches were always heridatery though and only after recent Black Friday the prices sunk. That was my only point. Ofc the amount of players is also impacting this

I'm not saying anything regarding if Achromia & Melanism should be passable or not. I'm neutral atm.

But honestly - who uses lion scrotum on anything other than DUs and dwarves? I doubt this would impact Lion scrotum market

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I forgot I even commented on this to be honest. Khajiit, you seem really pressed about wolvden being compared to lioden, yet... nobody has even mentioned it. It's just a mechanic that would make the game slightly more realistic, and give you a better chance of getting something cool without using super expensive items. At this point Lion Scrotums cost more than the actual mutation itself, so I support this idea now more than ever.

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