Posted by Closing the Rosette Case for good - Need some help

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Posted on
2023-01-13 10:54:07

RE-OPENING: March 1st! MODERATORS NEEDED.


Moderators:
None. Please PM me if you are interested! Here is what the moderator job entails:
Gathering every redeemed spontaneous rosette case and pasting them on a google doc for me to go through.
Answering questions regarding this project.
Gathering requested information.
This is a volunteer job and you will not receive any payment. (i.e, SB, GB.)
You have the right to quit this job at any time upon request regardless of the reasoning.
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#277200
Hello! At this moment (1/13/22) I am currently working on a google doc to close the spontaneous rosette case, for good. I'll be looking into things as small as skin colour, and doing everything I can to get this massive question answered, Where are the rosettes coming from?

I plan on using studs with certain markings to see what markings are the most likely to produce rosettes. I'm also writing down the markings of 8 breeding pairs for every variation of rosette marking that has resulted in a rosette. It's difficult to explain, but I hope to present it to lioden later on in the year.

Right now, i'm asking for a bit of help. If you've recently had any rosettes, or have had multiple rosettes, please let me know. If you have any rosette theories or have noticed repetition within the breeding of rosettes i'd seriously love help from you.

I also need some financial help. 2000 SB and at least 4 GB is needed to fund the stud fees. If for any reason at all this project is shut down, your currency will be refunded with a sincere apology and thank you for trying to help me in this passion project of mine. Currently, I am not open for donations, I want to wait until this project is in a more secure state. Right now, it is unclear if I will be 100% moving forward with this theory. It could take all year, maybe even some of 2024 to complete, but I am very excited about it. i hope to release the building blocks of this theory some time this month or maybe in February.

With the few days of time i've put into this, I have quite a bit of evidence so far, but it really isn't secure yet. I have no standing proof to allude to any answer, so basically this 'drawing' is in the sketch phase.

If you come across any good Rosette theory threads please let me know, i'm looking to observe and take in the opinions of others to hopefully stack up to an answer. Thank you for reading all of this, and I hope I find some supporters for my project. :)



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Edited on 19/02/23 @ 13:59:35 by NickocadosSaggyUnderboob (#248234)

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Posted on
2023-01-13 20:32:04
@val
tysm!
@idkaname
Hm, her parents are quite bare in regards of markings, I think this could definitely help prove my case that mutations aid in the production of rosettes, thank you for this data! :)



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Posted on
2023-01-13 20:32:54
Your welcome! i will come back if i get any other rosettes for sure.



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Posted on
2023-01-13 20:33:21
@idkaname
Tysm! :)



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♡ ᴠᴀʟ ♡ (#277200)

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Posted on
2023-01-13 20:39:16
https://www.lioden.com/lion.php?id=794172804193 Lion 1 had the following. - Slot 7: Goridhe Soft Rosette 100%, Slot 11 - Briar Rosette 80%

https://www.lioden.com/dynasty.php?vid=794170942599 Father of lion had the following. - Slot 11: Briar Rosette 80%, Slot 6: Mottled Rosette 100%, Slot 9: Briar Heavy Rosette 100%.

https://www.lioden.com/lion.php?id=794170124853 Mother had the following. - Slot 4: Heavy Inverted Rosette White 100%, Goridhe Soft Rosette 100%.

Father was a dwarf.
Mother had 2 FELINE markings.



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Posted on
2023-01-13 20:42:45
@val
tysm! This is the first case i've seen with a dwarf as the father, so thats new! I wonder if that'll repeatedly happen through our research of the briar rosette.
I'm gonna write down these rq!



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♡ ᴠᴀʟ ♡ (#277200)

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Posted on
2023-01-13 20:50:27
2Nd lion! Im super fast when motivated lmao.

https://www.lioden.com/lion.php?id=794177882478 Lion had the following. - Slot 6: Mottled Rosette 52%, Slot 11: Briar Rosette 35%.


https://www.lioden.com/lion.php?mid=240374 Father had the following. - Slot 6: Mottled Rosette 53%, Slot 7: Noctis Soft Rosette 100%, Slot 10 : Noctis Heavy Rosette 100%. — Father has Patches Fringe mutation.


https://www.lioden.com/lion.php?id=794177519937 Mother had the following. - Slot 2: Inverted Heavy White Rosette 100%, Slot 6: Mottled Rosette 82%, Slot 7: Briar Heavy Rosette 55%, Slot 11: Briar Rosette 35%. — Mother has Mane Fluffy mutation.



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Posted on
2023-01-13 20:55:57
Unsure if this is really the help you are looking for. But my old ferus king(side king)(hes deceased but gave me a few random rosettes when bred to some of my lions a few NCL moms gave them but one of my reg girls did too.

https://www.lioden.com/lion.php?id=794179042844 shes a red soft rosette

he also have i think 2 Goridhe Rosette this one is from a NCL mom sadly so you cant view her
https://www.lioden.com/lion.php?id=794178903058



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Edited on 13/01/23 @ 20:59:25 by LucifersHellHound (#336298)

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Posted on
2023-01-13 21:02:26
https://www.lioden.com/lion.php?id=794170541700 Lion had the following. - Slot 6: Mottled Rosette 100%, Slot 9: Ginger Heavy Rosette 50%, Slot 11: Briar Rosette 10%.


https://www.lioden.com/lion.php?id=794148102614 Mother had the following. - Slot 2: Auburn Soft Rosette 50%, Slot 6: Mottled Rosette 50%, Slot 9: Ginger Heavy Rosette 50%. — Mother has Leopon mutation.


https://www.lioden.com/dynasty.php?vid=794161824973 Father has the folowing. - Slot 6: Mottled Rosette 100%, Slot 9: Briar Heavy Rosette 10%, Slot 11: Briar Rosette 10%. — Father has Piebald Svelte mutation.

Hope im helping!



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♡ ᴠᴀʟ ♡ (#277200)

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Posted on
2023-01-13 21:05:38
So far we have 3 out of 8 lions! I wonder why the Briar and mottled only show on slots 10, 11 and 6.

Edit: Im keeping track of everything on paper!



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Edited on 13/01/23 @ 21:07:24 by ♡ val ♡ (#277200)

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Posted on
2023-01-13 21:08:38
^if you are wondering about Mottled its specifically from breeding a first gen Leopon! If i remember correctly its only in slot 6
*wiki source for it* https://www.lioden.wiki/special-markings#hybrid_markings
Mottled Rosette only appears on first generation Leopons, and can only be passed down by Leopons and their offspring.
If you have a lion with Mottled Rosette, there is a 100% chance that, at some point, it descended from a first generation Leopon. Even if you stumble upon a chased lioness with Mottled Rosette, or you find a heritageless king with Mottled Rosette, the original lion was sourced from a Leopon in some way!
There is no other way to get Mottled Rosette on a lion without Leopon heritage, even with a Random Marking Applicator or Total Shuffle. Mottled Rosette is blocked from being applied with those two applicators.



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♡ ᴠᴀʟ ♡ (#277200)

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Posted on
2023-01-13 21:10:01
Thanks for this source! Makes sense now.. leopons control the economy.



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Posted on
2023-01-13 21:10:46
Only controls Mottled rosette!

just as Mottled Stripes are specifically First gen Tigons!



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Posted on
2023-01-13 21:11:49
Can I be a guinea pig in this project? My king has made multiple ros cubs singlehandedly, I can hand over a ros cubbin if needed



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♡ ᴠᴀʟ ♡ (#277200)

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Posted on
2023-01-13 21:11:52
Wait really? Didn't know that either. So no more Leopons no more mottled rosette and no more tigons no more Mottled stripes!



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Berrybell (#245298)

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Posted on
2023-01-13 21:12:26
I have gotten
1 Dark Brown Heavy Rosette
1 Ebony Soft Rosette

from my king here, https://www.lioden.com/lion.php?mid=245298
at least one was from a NCL and ill go check back but I know at least the other the mother did not have any rosettes either

edit yup I'm 99% sure both were from plan NCL



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Edited on 13/01/23 @ 21:16:59 by Berrybell (#245298)







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