Posted by -LOCKED - Marking Tier Adjustments

jester [im autistic]
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Posted on
2023-03-22 06:14:26
After checking all the other Marking Tier Adjustment/Overhaul suggestions, and finding nothing that is similar to my suggestion, I decided to make it!

This is not a complete overhaul of the tiers, but rather a reorganization and a few adjustments. It's clear that, at least originally, marking tiers were meant to represent the difficulty of obtaining said marking, but when RMA Exclusives (Tier 6) were added, that kind of went out the window. Or maybe they expected RMA Exclusive markings to be way harder to get than they are, who knows. And even on Wolvden, the Marking Tier system somewhat represents the difficulty associated with getting these markings.

As a refresher, let's go through the current marking tiers. I'll spoil this since it's not really part of the actual suggestion.


With my suggestion, they would be re-ordered and slightly more organized to make more sense to newer players and returning old players! The new tiers would be as follows:
Tier 0 - Common Markings: There would be no changes to this tier.
Tier 1 - Custom Markings: There would be no changes to this tier.
Tier 2 - Breeding-Exclusive Markings: This is where any non-Hybrid Exclusive Markings only obtainable through breeding would exist. Raffle Markings, Event BO, and NCL Exclusives would rest here. Piety Markings could also be included here, whichever stance staff prefer to take, as some do consider them BO-lite.
Tier 3 - Applicator Markings: This is where any and all markings that come from non-Oasis applicators come from. Including Event Applicators, Craftable Markings, and any future gift markings like the Decennial Set. I would also move Enclave Apps down here, but this is up to staff if they would want to do this or not. This could also include Piety Markings, as they are applicable in November.
Tier 4 - Rosette Markings: No changes to this tier. Despite being extremely rare through RMAs, they also appear randomly through breeding.
Tier 5 - RMA-Exclusive Markings: There would be no changes to this tier, other than labeling it Number 5 rather than Number 6
Tier 6 - Restricted Markings: No changes, other than labeling Tier 6 instead of 5 and potentially removing Enclave Apps from this Tier and into Tier 3 under my suggestion. This would still be the holding cell for unreleased raffle markings, applicator markings, etc.

And that's it! It's just a simple reordering, not a complete rehaul, so hopefully this is unique enough to not get shut down. If you guys have any suggestions or any criticisms, please feel free to let me know so I can adjust the suggestion.

Thanks for reading!



This suggestion has 79 supports and 9 NO supports.



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Edited on 29/03/23 @ 13:34:03 by jester [g1 daedal bush rlc] (#187561)

Thalath {Side} (#43831)

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Posted on
2023-03-29 13:35:23
Agree. The current marking tier system is really bad and confusing.

"Piety" marks should still be considered breed only imo. Having a marking applicator available year round* isn't really the same as being able to apply markings at one specific time per year. They were also strictly breed only before the November event even existed. Other BO marks can be applied with RMAs if you're lucky but they're still BO. Putting them in the Applicator tier is kind of belittling to the marking and breeding for it and it also is more confusing for players than putting it in tier 2, because they can only be applied during one specific event. There would be endless questions of "how do I apply x when there's no applicator for it? It's in the applicator tier?"

*I know they're only available during the event as well technically but the applicators can be bought from other players and applied literally any time you want.

Alternatively, you could make "Breed Only Exclusive" tier just "Exclusive" i.e. Raffle (Celestial or Friday), Special NCL (Explore or normal), etc. I think that would also work.



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Edited on 29/03/23 @ 13:40:17 by Thalath {Side} (#43831)

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Posted on
2023-03-29 13:39:45
i agree with everything except moving some t5 markings to t3. t3 markings can be RMA'd, and t5 markings can't. it adds to the rarity of them at least a little because t5 apps are hard to get. If the t5 markings from enclave/etc apps weren't supposed to be rma-able, they would be in t3 to begin with. While yes, they are applicable, they're pretty different from the applicable markings in t3 and that distinction is important to me.



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vulturetalon •
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Posted on
2023-04-30 10:38:10
I totally agree. I also made a little summary of what I found annoying a few days back.

BO markings are so damn confusing. While some t3's are obtainable by breeding, others can be piety marks. Here's a thing I find confusing. For one, celestial markings are always released during July on the celestial raffle lionesses (with some exceptions being regular year-round RLs having these). Shouldn't they be classified as raffle markings, then?

Same thing goes for dawn, leonid, sidereal, and stratosphere. These can't be applied. And on the other hand, we have months like February, April, September, where they're found on NCL's while exploring. Then there's also August, ofcourse, where you can breed markings like scoundrel and bandit. That makes them all breed-only, to me. I don't understand how so many different markings with such different criteria, were propped up into a singular tier.
I'll list some T3's.

April, February, September : Cozy, Glaze, Nuzzle, Inverted cover, pelt heavy, reverse vitiligo mash, ridge, shaded, shoulders, snuggle, tiptoe, undershine, upendezi, venter, belly, bottom, ear backs, english spots, freckles, inverted brindle, lahore plumage, limb patch, marble, nose tip, patch, puma, quail flecks, siamese, ticking, torso, trim, undercover, blotches, cobweb, debris, domino, dust, flux, foreshadow, hindquarters, mirage, smoke, taper, tuxedo, some vitiligo (red and blue), web. Can all be applied OR bred from event NCL's.

July and August (all marking colors not shapes?) : Bandit, Sidereal, celestial, scoundrel, vagabond, ukame, ruffian, stratosphere, leonid, dawn. All from raffle studs and therefore I consider them breed-only.

See, this is where it gets confusing. It's ALL ONE TIER. It's like a clown car. You can't just put one part applicable and the other not. I don't think that's how a tier works.



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jester [im autistic]
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2023-04-30 18:56:43
Even worse is that NCL BO, the year round markings that are only obtainable through breeding (Copal, Marigold, Cinnabar, Most Inverted Cover Colors and Clay) are ALSO in Tier 3 despite having nothing to do with an event.



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Posted on
2023-07-28 15:01:02
Support! T3 is such an unnecessarily messy tier the way things currently are, it makes it annoying to try to keep track of which markings in it are apps vs breed-only. I also very strongly agree that having the enclave and referral apps in with the hybrid marks is weird?? Like there's no reason for them to have been put there at all.

I wonder if it would be possible to just add an "unreleased" tier label to marks that aren't on site yet? That way if you're looking through the wardrobe before things are unlocked its very easy at a glance to tell that something isn't in game yet even if its preview-able.



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Posted on
2023-09-11 17:26:30
Hi there!

This has already been suggested on this topic. You're welcome to pledge your support there, or post any feedback or suggestions you may have!


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