(Idk I was on the side watching (

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((Apparently was watching Bloodborne clean herself in the stream. ))

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((well i dont rlly like that you just joined in the fight and started taunting my oc))

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((it kinda makes it hard to understand whats happening))

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((I mean, I didn't really like it when your character came out of the blue and then apparently had "the same strength as vidar". Guess we just gotta roll with it. ))

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( Well I didn't know how to join )

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((i said that so its kinda a fair ish fight))

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((I mean, it wasn't meant to be a fair fight since you put Apollo in a 2v1 situation. Especially since Vidar and Bloodborne were just going to head home to discuss the war. Of course it wouldn't be fair if he was fighting two wolves but you still put him in that situation. I'm not here to argue or fight, just discuss. ))

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((well vidar did attack apollo 1st so i didnt start it i was rolling with the talking thing))

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If I'm being honest, It really didn't have to be a fair fight, Vidar has a gigantism mutation, so obviously, he will naturally be way much harsher when it comes to fights, Apollo on the other side is an average wolf with no mutations whatsoever, So if you think about it, Vidar has about a 90% chance of winning against apollo unless he calls the rest of the pack over and they all jump him at the same time, which still by then, his chances will only lower a small portion.

The Dire wolf that you just introduced to make the fight supposedly 'fair' Just randomly appeared the same way Ivy appeared, So you either accept the fact that you may or may have not made a mistake by introducing a character like that in a such harsh manner and simply roll with it, Or both you and Madelyn can take it to PMs, This thread is to Roleplay, it's supposed to be a friendly and safe space for everyone, We all commit mistakes throughout this experience but the point is to acknowledge it and try to not do it again for the sake of everyone included in the RP.

Oceana, If there is anything you are still upset about may it be someone's way of acting towards you or something that they did that you didn't like, Please take it to PMs with them as it may make the rest of us very uncomfortable, You should let Devil know as they are the ones that are hosting this RP and they will resolve the issue that you are having with whoever player you are having problems with.

Please try not to be rude in any way toward anyone! and handle it in a friendly manner, If you didn't know you messed up or did something wrong, Acknowledge it, Apologize, and try not to do it again as it may lead to more arguments.

If you would like to reply to this message please PM me as this is a Roleplaying thread, We don't want to have any outer discussions other than small compliments or remarks about one's character! ^^ )

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((Of course, I see your point in it being an unfair fight. Vidar has gigantism, making him a lot larger than the average wolf. Which in turn, does make things unfair. Thing is though, I asked for direct permission from the owner of the RP for Vidar to have the mutation, because I didn't want to make things unfair and I wanted to make sure that the owner was okay with it. That's why to counter his gigantism, Vidar has this "honor code" where he doesn't kill individuals. He can hurt them, sure, but I always leave it up to the roleplayer to see how much they want their characters damaged. With Daisy, I stated several times that the hold Vidar had on her wasn't meant to hurt. It was meant to just hold her in position while Ezra decided what to do. Devil, Daisy's roleplayer, decided that when Ezra attacked Vidar, that Daisy had gotten hurt from it. So much so that she was clearly in pain. So, I played into that too. Lachimolala decided to kill Ezra off of the injuries that Vidar had caused from him. However, to make things fair, I made it so that Vidar let go of Daisy completely once Tula gave the whole "no bloodshed needed" speech. And I also gave the roleplayer the option of what they wanted to do with Ezra. Eventually though, Ezra did let go and Vidar removed his weight from him. However, the roleplayer decided to have Ezra die from the injuries he suffered. Daisy's roleplayer on the other hand didn't, and merely had their character suffer from scars of the muzzle.

Vidar is also meant to go through this development where he no longer is as open to hurting. Which in turn means he won't battle as much. Which then means there won't be anymore of those unfair fights where he has a higher chance of winning. I don't want to be a powerplayer whatsoever but in order to get there, I need to develop Vidar. He won't get there overnight.

And it wasn't really an "attack" that would have an outcome of battle, he just headbutted him away from Bloodborne's face so that Apollo could look at him instead of Bloodborne. It was more of a disrespectful move rather than an attack but he was only doing the same thing that Apollo did since he had disrespected Bloodborne by putting his face in her face. There I gave you the option of what you would do with Apollo in response. Vidar was trying to push him over the edge but you as the roleplayer decided to have him give in. Of course, it could be registered as an attack but regardless, you still put Apollo in that 2v1 situation rather than have him speak his way out of it.

To me, it just felt like you made your other character to directly counter my own character. Which isn't a bad thing, nor am I telling you that you don't have the freedom to do that. However, it has to be done right rather than just have him have similarities to Vidar. And even if you're going to make a counter to Vidar, you need to ask permission from me. Especially since you referenced that he had "the same strength as vidar", I feel like you should have asked for my thoughts on the matter. And because you made him a dire wolf, which in my eyes, was to mimic Vidar's same height/build/weight. I'm not sure if anyone else sees it, but it just kinda looks like you made your own version of Vidar instead of taking your own creative liberties.

You could have made your other character different in anyway different from Vidar. And yet, you decided to make him a black wolf. Who has scars. With lots of brute strength and who has the size of a dire wolf (when originally, he was a dire wolf) to directly reference Vidar's gigantism. He's also been known to kill others, something that Vidar is known for also.

And no, by no means am I trying to "gatekeep" those things. Your character can have those things but to me, they just seem way too alike for my liking. Just like Lachimolala stated, if you feel wronged in anyway, please make sure to PM me. I want to settle this maturely, last thing I want is for this RP to suffer from grudges since that's when things take a turn for the worst.))

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Clearly, I missed a lot.

Adamant did ask permission to have Vidar be a gigantism wolf, which I had allowed. I knew that Vidar wasn't meant to hurt Daisy or Ezra, like he had said, that's how we played it. The users of the wolf are allowed to choose what their wolf does, BUT, it would be nice for some to actually explain what their wolf is doing. Shani, Adamant, and I type up responses explaining what our wolves do.

For example, when Bloodborne and Vidar ran into Apollo I wrote, 'As she was laying there, watching the interaction a strong scent of the Sungod alpha rushed through her nose. She shot up, seeing him coming in the distance', clearly stating that she knew Apollo was coming.

Now, Madelyn could have done a much better job at explaining how Ivy knew Bloodborne, Vidar, and Apollo were fighting, through smell or hearing, and proceeded to show how she made her way over.

It's always easier to make sure you make your surroundings and wolf interactions clearly known as that makes it easier for others to get an understanding and type up responses and make the scenario much more easy to follow.

If you have any problems, please PM me about it.

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((i was just confused on how ivy just apered with the group lol))

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