Posted by Ability To Have Grandmaws|100+ support!

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2023-04-08 17:32:03
Hello! I recently had an idea for Grandpaws. It's very common for people to have 'queens,' which are male lions with lab test frogs to make them look female. Most people come to consider these queens as lionesses. However, the grandpaw feature always uses he/him pronouns and refers to "his time as king."

So I've had an idea for a new feature, where you can change whether your set "Grandpaw" is a Grandpaw or a Grandmaw.

Grandmaws will use she/her pronouns, and will refer to "her time as queen." Other than that, they will have the same interactions.

I do NOT think this should a priority to be added, there are much more important things that should be worked on before this. I simply wanted to suggest it.

Maw: The jaws or throat of a voracious animal.

Please give a reason for no support, I would love to see people's opinions, and further explain why I think this should be implemented.

And please keep in mind that this is a fictional game, even if they're aren't female leaders in real life, people in this game very often do have Queens.

Edit: GrandMAW is no sillier or weirder than GrandPAW, and they are basically the same thing, they only have one letter changed.
A compromise name could be GrandCLAW, a gender neutral title option for all retired leaders.


Okay, I just received an incredibly disrespectful comment, and want to put out just a universal, general reply to anyone else who's thinking of leaving something similar.
There is absolutely NO reason to be rude about this. An optional selection to change your retired leader's title is not a hassle, by any means. It is an option, same as deciding if you want to use a specific food item for one of your lions. And Grandpaw is silly too, there is nothing wrong silly, it's the whole point of the pun.
If you're going to be so insanely negative that I'm editing the topic to bring attention to it, do not comment on the topic. I have been on here for almost two years, have posted and commented on plenty of topics, and have never seen a player act or talk in that manner before.

I love hearing opinions, but I do not love hearing people being rude and disrespectful. There is a difference.



This suggestion has 176 supports and 19 NO supports.



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Edited on 16/10/23 @ 15:56:36 by Thorn|g3 Clean Clouded Pie (#279020)

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Posted on
2023-04-08 17:36:49
I support because I miss my irl Grandmaw....



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2023-04-08 18:30:25
Don't grandpaw's loose all decor they had on once retired? therefore it wouldn't really make sense unless you re-applied the lab frog.



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2023-04-08 18:40:57
Whether they look female or not, most players still consider them to be females, and most people do re-apply decor from what I've seen:)



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2023-04-09 14:32:48
its a good concept but i dont rlly think it would make sense, even in a sisterhood lion pride there is no female leader so this would just get confusing



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2023-04-09 16:53:00
You make a good argument! However, this is an online game, and many players do have female leaders. And once your king/queen gets retired, I picture you being able to select if the lion is a grandpaw or grandmaw, so it wouldn't automatically assign the lion a role. The grandpaw feature also always states the name of the lion, so you'd know exactly what lion it was talking about. So-and this is an example-if you retired your lab test frogged queen named Rachel, you would be able to go to a tab at the bottom of her page and have a drop down box, with "Grandpaw" and "Grandmaw" in it. Once you selected Grandmaw, she would be presented as "Grandmaw Rachel told you about her time as queen," instead of "And Grandpaw Rachel told you about his time as king."

I hope this cleared a few things up, and made it less confusing. Thanks for the feedback!^^



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2023-04-09 17:19:47
its not confusing i get it but it feels like an unnecessary add to the game. i have a queen myself instead of a king but its all up to what the mods think about queens



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2023-04-09 18:43:37
dont support for one reason only- i think instead of grandmaws they should all be grandpaws but the in the text the pronouns should be they /them.



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2023-04-09 18:49:32
I appreciate the feedback! Is there maybe a specific reason you think that all retired leaders, including queens should all be Grandpaws? I'm just looking to understand everyone's stance on the discussion!



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jesse (MRLC 1500st) (#174860)

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2023-04-09 20:25:27
for one, grandmaws sound kinda silly? and its a lot of extra work. grandpaw can be taken as a pun on grandparent and i think the best option for everyone and the devs would be to just make it gender neutral. for instance, my main king is non-binary. they/them basically works for everything



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2023-04-09 20:29:31
The take I was going on for Grandmaw is that it's a pun on Grandma. Dictionary definition of maw: the jaws or throat of a voracious animal. It's really no sillier than Grandpaw.

Again, you make a good point! And although I don't quite understand, I appreciate you taking the time to explain it^^



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jesse (MRLC 1500st) (#174860)

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2023-04-09 21:39:39
no i understand. its personal opinion.
but i feel if you add a female version you need a nb version and from a dev perspective its easier to change to gender neutral pronouns then to add a button and change all the flavor text and the den layout.



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2023-04-13 08:14:07
oh yeah, i agree with the they/them one! i have a queen myself, but i think just making the pronouns gender neutral would be perfect



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Posted on
2023-08-19 14:42:12
I support, but mainly for the idea of it being gender neutral pronouns



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2023-10-10 19:00:06
No support.

First, Definitely need a better name for them if it’s to be implemented. The whole point of grandpaw is the whole..well..”paw” joke

Additionally, IDGAF if “Maw” means jaw/mouth or whatever but “Grandmaw” sounds silly asf Also just hella unnecessary, female leaders/“kings” don’t exist. Sure, kings can be lab frogged but it’s still a male at the end of the day, additionally how would you even go about choosing grandmaw or grandpaw?! Lab frogging automatically making them a ‘grandmaw’ doesn’t work because many people, like me, lab frogged their kings just for a better pose but they’re still male. A little pop up/selection would just be an annoying hassle to have to always click but it’s the most plausible, and a 1-time prompt doesn’t work cause kings change and so do peoples preference. Don’t even get me started on you wanting to universally change the “Grandpaw” title to “Grandclaw” instead lol Additionally, my opinion does not mean you or anybody else is not able to HC your king to be something other than male.

Point is, the change is useless. Nobody keeps their grandpaws around because they literally cannot be used for ANYTHING. Cannot be frozen, cannot be traded/raffled, cannot be patrolled, etc. Since nobody actually has them long term the change is a whole lot of work for NOTHING.

Edit: Added extra explanation to what i mean since i think you missed my point



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Edited on 17/10/23 @ 16:23:47 by 🌌Snive Snebbles🌌 #3 recode fan (#441306)

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2023-10-11 07:07:08
"maw" is also a joke. The 'maw' is another word for an predators mouth/jaws



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