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♡ stormie ♡ G2 x7 Strat (#427048) Divine View Forum Posts Posted on 2023-07-31 17:15:36 |
As I'm sure you're all aware, the dwarf market has crashed. Dwarves cost more than they are worth to sell in order to breed and that lack of lucrativity of the mutation is causing it to be worth nothing in the market. Everyone is selling their dwarves because they're just too expensive to maintain and don't make a profit; myself included. I would like to suggest that changes be made to dwarves, such as a new type of breeding item being implemented for dwarves that can be purchased from Oasis similar to the pennyroyal but for female dwarves. Or at the very least give dwarves a small chance at passing when bred without items. If you disagree, please give a comment entailing why so I can edit my post to cover things I may not be recognizing. To address dwarves flooding the market after this item is introduced... I can foresee a massive influx of dwarves causing the market to be flooded, but the way to stop that is by merely adjusting the rate at which this item produces dwarves to an appropriate level which I believe the moderators can balance. The reason the demand for dwarves seems so low is because they are terrible to breed. Nobody wants to pay for something that will cost more to breed than it will net in profit and it spirals the more the price goes up for lion scrotes and buffy balls. There isn't low demand for dwarves; if you gave away a dwarf right now I guarantee you it would blow up with claims. Nobody wants to pay for them because they aren't going to make you anything in the future. |
qDuchp (#235234)
Dreamboat of Ladies View Forum Posts Posted on 2023-07-31 17:17:41 |
Literally though. They're worth so much to breed and thats why no one wants to buy them like bffr. 2 players like this post! Like? |
High on The Nip (#442282)
Usual View Forum Posts Posted on 2023-07-31 17:17:42 |
I agree, as I've seen dwarfs for 8- gb, or 40+ gb, and this may help some who cannot afford items, but then again, people could hoard them and sell them for way more expensive than when they bought it! 0 players like this post! Like? |
🦎Rango (Main) G2 NRLC Uneven (#334921) Bone Collector View Forum Posts Posted on 2023-07-31 17:18:09 |
Now that I've seen more input, I'm redacting my support. Sorry! 0 players like this post! Like? Edited on 31/07/23 @ 17:41:30 by Adam (#334921) |
Project PRIVATE (#230272)
Good Natured View Forum Posts Posted on 2023-07-31 17:19:50 |
Haven't chosen a side yet but ferus alone, G3 ferus cubs alone are difficult to sell for 15gb. Ferus x Ferus already have a breeding boost. Male dwarves act as regular kings. Changing to an item that acts like a pennyroyal, wouldn't that make dwarf market worse than it already is though? Like if they decide to add the item for example, the market for dwarves may already still be dead like right now. 0 players like this post! Like? |
♡ stormie ♡ G2 x7 Strat (#427048) Divine View Forum Posts Posted on 2023-07-31 17:23:15 |
I can see your concern Tem, but right now the items that are required are just too expensive. The barrier to entry requires you to have massive amounts of GB in order to breed even one dwarf over the course of it's life. The items for a dwarf heat cost about 50GB, but the cost to buy a dwarf is as low as 6GB right now. I have seen dwarves selling for 6 (granted long gen but clean). I don't think it would make it worse because it would encourage people to breed dwarves again as opposed to nobody breeding them anymore. Dwarves are so inexpensive because nobody wants to keep them when they cost so much to breed. I can foresee a massive influx of dwarves causing the market to be flooded, but the way to stop that is by merely adjusting the rate at which this item produces dwarves to an appropriate level which I believe the moderators can balance. 1 player likes this post! Like? |
qDuchp (#235234)
Dreamboat of Ladies View Forum Posts Posted on 2023-07-31 17:25:24 |
I think they meant it wouldn't work as males don't pass the dwarf gene, so the dwarf pennyroyal would be for females 1 player likes this post! Like? |
Devaska ☘️ (#234220)
View Forum Posts Posted on 2023-07-31 17:25:33 |
Even as someone who doesn't and has never tried to breed dwarves, I don't support. I believe adding easier access to breed dwarves will only cause a massive influx and drop their worth significantly more. I can see your point and it's unfortunate that the value is so low compared to the items needed to breed however this can easily be fixed through buying lion scrotes and/or buffies in their respective months. 3 players like this post! Like? Edited on 31/07/23 @ 19:01:45 by a Moderator |
Corruptedhyena (#243378)
View Forum Posts Posted on 2023-07-31 17:26:59 |
Personally I think the entire market is just ruined rn. And it will be no matter the mutation until a new, much more popular mutation rises. Personally i think the dwarf shouldn't be focus on UNTIL another mutation is released. At that point we can have time to fix the dwarf economy, but nothing will get fixed until something new takes the attention away from other mutations such as ferus and hybrids. 2 players like this post! Like? |
★ - 🦇 Batman 🦇 - ★ (#425914) View Forum Posts Posted on 2023-07-31 17:27:50 |
I agree with Devaska. Also to remind you The Collector already exists. They basically get dwarves and other muts and kill them so the mut is worth more. 0 players like this post! Like? |
qDuchp (#235234)
Dreamboat of Ladies View Forum Posts Posted on 2023-07-31 17:28:34 |
No one really can as its not worth breeding them. Imagine you have a dwarf and she has finally given you ONE dwarf at her last breeding (has happened to my friend many times). You've spent roughly 50-350 GB on her already and her cub now sells for 10 GB. That is not affordable to any player. Why spend 50-350 GB on a cub who is worth a fraction of that? No one can legitimately afford it as its a downhill breeding system, you don't make back what you spend at all. 2 players like this post! Like? |
topaz2 [message main] (#243121) Bone Collector View Forum Posts Posted on 2023-07-31 17:28:37 |
no support, dwarf market crashes every year it’s not new. also, if you add this for dwarves they’d have to add something for every non naturally passing mut 1 player likes this post! Like? |
♡ stormie ♡ G2 x7 Strat (#427048) Divine View Forum Posts Posted on 2023-07-31 17:28:45 |
I think a mutation only being viable for profit out of one or two months out of the year is a bit ludicrous. Even hybrids don't have such a high barrier to entry to breed and they're worth considerably more than dwarves even at the peak of the dwarf market this year. If you don't breed them, you don't understand how horrible the market feels to work with for dwarves. They simply aren't lucrative. I owned a dwarf since I joined and had the economy to pay for their heats and not a single heat was lucrative. I broke even at best off my heats and I got a dwarf every breeding. Just breaking even in that situation doesn't seem fair. The market value is extremely askew. 1 player likes this post! Like? Edited on 31/07/23 @ 19:03:16 by a Moderator |
Corruptedhyena (#243378)
View Forum Posts Posted on 2023-07-31 17:30:20 |
I didnt see Devaskas post when i posted, but now that they mentioned it, I do agree with them. I didnt take into account that lion scrots can be bought for only 12-15 gb in certains months. So no support, sorry. EDIT: lion scrots are about 15-20 gb for maybe 3-5 months out of the year (ferbuary, march maybe april, and then may and june) before they start to rise. I personally think that is plenty of time. 0 players like this post! Like? Edited on 31/07/23 @ 17:32:36 by Corruptedhyena (#243378) |
harvey (#350256)
View Forum Posts Posted on 2023-07-31 17:31:50 |
An item to add to the already high supply but low demand for dwarves would make their market worse. I have two dwarves just sitting around because of this. ETA: No support 2 players like this post! Like? Edited on 31/07/23 @ 18:32:56 by Harv 🦌 (#350256) |
qDuchp (#235234)
Dreamboat of Ladies View Forum Posts Posted on 2023-07-31 17:32:29 |
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