Posted by Throttling number of lions with certain traits

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Fissure (#359190)

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Posted on
2023-08-04 13:26:19
We’ve all noticed the TC economy going to the trash lately and this is my suggestion of how to fix *part* of it.

What part am I suggesting we fix?
Lions are increasingly worth less, especially if they don’t have a passable mutation or a “preferred” special base. (interstellar, jelly and prismatic are preferred but no one cares about blood moon for example). I will often fodder a mutated male lion to the gorilla because they are worth almost nothing with several preferred traits.

What is my fix?

My suggestion is throttling the number of lions born with a certain characteristic after a limit.

What does this solve?

This will create scarcity, making once high value lions, high value once again.

An example:
Interstellar’s projected doom

A year ago the average price of an interstellar based lion was around 15-20 GB. Now it’s about 5-10 GB. Why is this? Well, with interstellar being the most popular king’s base, much more interstellars get born. One king may produce several interstellar cubs in his lifetime. When the most popular king’s base is just churning out the base, you get a lack of scarcity. This will eventually lead to there being so many interstellar lions that it’s not even worth much. This is where the throttle would kick in. When the is “X” amount of lions with a trait, in our example Interstellar, the drop rate of this trait will plummet until there is a normal amount of lions with this trait. (Normal can be different for each trait).

An example of the throttle in action could look like this: If there are enough interstellar lions in the game that each payer *could* have one, the throttle kicks in. Once this generation of interstellar lions dies out, there will be only about 1 Interstellar lion per 4 people, keeping the interstellar base as a high value trait. There will be no announcement when the throttle kicks in.

What traits could be throttled?
- Special “prefered” bases like Interstellar, Dawn, Prismatic, Jelly, ect.
- High value markings like interstellar, Dawn, vit.
- *Possibly* the black rosettes. I say possibly because of their mystic nature and I do not want to take away from that.
- ALL mutations, and I mean ALL. I would even raise the throttle on the non-passable ones to make them worth more. Like clawless, for example. The throttle would not affect breeding items. It may mean that if we’ve hit the throttle on clawless lions, your CRB lion will be less likely to throw that specific mutation, but more likely to throw one that has not hit the throttle limit.

Let me know what you think!



This suggestion has 1 support and 16 NO supports.



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Raccoon | G2 Frail
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Posted on
2023-08-04 13:42:17
Sorry, I don't support. I completely understand the frustration with over-saturated markets and lions being de-valued, but I don't think this is the best solutions.
  • Most of the suggestion revolves around a complete lack of transparency, which many players would find frustrating. There is no announcement for when the drop rate will be throttled and no actual pass rate is given.

  • How should the admins decide what to throttle and when? It feels arbitrary to define "preferred" bases and opinions change frequently in the community. What does it mean for markings to be "mystic" and how should that be objectively decided on?

  • How quickly would the throttle activate/go away? Can someone make 10 burner lioden accounts to bump the ratio below the acceptable level and remove the throttle?

  • If the pass rate is incredibly low, it is still possible to breed for these traits, just very difficult. I think this would have a "rich get richer" effect where players who already own lots of lions with the desired traits would have a much easier time breeding them. I'm not saying people should not be rewarded for focusing on breeding specific traits, and I'm not saying that new players should have an easy time breeding "special" or "valuable" traits. But I worry it could discourage newer/poorer players from breeding.

  • I do not know exactly how the site works, but I don't think this would even be feasible to program in. Bases (of different rarities), markings, and mutations have a hard-coded pass rate and I strongly doubt there would be an elegant way to throw in exceptions to these pass rates at the drop of a hat. Especially with the added complexity of making other mutations more likely.




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Corruptedhyena (#243378)


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Posted on
2023-08-04 13:57:51
agree with racoon. no support. The market should fix when a new mutie of worth is released. The issue isnt even the devaluing of lions, but a mixture of a huge influx of players and the fact that nothing super worth it (a mutie) has been released, so everyones currenct focus is crbs. Once a new hybrid/primal or other decent mutie is released, the market will get better.



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