Posted by IBF vs no IBF

Terrinthia [G1] (#97101)


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Posted on
2023-08-27 15:50:27
Strange question maybe, but does anyone know the exact age a lioness would be on each of her heats if an IBF is used or not? If that makes sense. Suppose that she was put into heat at 2 years old exactly bred on the first day of all her heats. I just don't wanna do that math myself.

For example, your answer could be formatted like this:

With IBF
2y
3y 8mo
5y 4mo
etc. (until all natural heats are counted)

Without IBF
2y
3y 11mo
etc.


I'll give 5 GB to whoever answers first, I guess! I'll give 1-2 GB for other answers within like a 5 (ish) minute timeframe of the first answer, in case the math takes a little longer than others x)



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Edited on 31/08/23 @ 04:13:39 by Terrinthia [G1 Jellyfish] (#97101)

๐Ÿ‰ Kaz ๐Ÿ‰ (#207720)

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2023-08-27 16:00:52
With ibf
2y
3y 8m
5y 4m
7y 0m
8y 8m
10y 4m
12y 0m
13y 8m

Without ibf
2y 3m
3y 11m
5y 7m
7y 3m
8y 11m
10y 7m
12y 3m
13y 11m

Source: https://kraft7.github.io/



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Edited on 27/08/23 @ 16:08:17 by ๐Ÿ‰ Kaz ๐Ÿ‰ (#207720)

starrcatcher (#251707)

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Posted on
2023-08-27 16:08:45
thank u!



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โค› Rah (#156300)

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2023-08-27 17:06:07
I do see the edit but as far as I can tell, ๐Ÿ‰ Kaz ๐Ÿ‰ has answered both?

However, from your post

Without IBF
2y
3y 11mo
etc.

If brought into heat at 2y, and bred immediately but not ibf'ed, her first litter would be born at 2y3mo but the first day of first heat would still be at 2y so perhaps you're after

Without ibf (with Zebra heart at 2y):
2y
3y 11m
4y 2m
5y 10m




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Edited on 27/08/23 @ 17:10:42 by โ™ฎ Rah [Clean 1stGen Sunrise] (#156300)

๐Ÿ‰ Kaz ๐Ÿ‰ (#207720)

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2023-08-27 17:10:31
Yeah, but I believe I did something wrong, you should only have 7 heats if you don't ibf every litter, and 8 if you do, but both have 8 heats..



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โค› Rah (#156300)

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2023-08-27 17:14:16
Without ibf (with Zebra heart at 2y):
2y
3y 11m heat will be born at 4yr 2
5y 10m heat will be born at 6y 1
7y 9m heat will be born at 7y 11 (Edit: 7y9 will be born at 8yr; see complete schedule later, striking through the mistake for posterity but wanted to correct this just in case anyone else needs the heat schedules! <3 )


9y 7 born 9y10




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Edited on 27/08/23 @ 18:02:53 by โ™ฎ Rah [Clean 1stGen Sunrise] (#156300)

โค› Rah (#156300)

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Posted on
2023-08-27 17:15:26
11y 6 born 11y9
13y 5 born 13y 8

(Edit; see complete heat schedule in next post)



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Edited on 27/08/23 @ 18:02:09 by โ™ฎ Rah [Clean 1stGen Sunrise] (#156300)

๐Ÿ‰ Kaz ๐Ÿ‰ (#207720)

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Posted on
2023-08-27 17:17:10
Oh yeah that makes more sense now!



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โค› Rah (#156300)

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Posted on
2023-08-27 17:42:08
I think so :D

So we'd have


With ibf
2y
3y 8m
5y 4m
7y 0m
8y 8m
10y 4m
12y 0m
13y 8m

! Fun sidenote: you can skip only 1 ibf in her lifetime & still have a full 8 heats, I usually do this after the 7y heat if struggling with GB so my last heats may end up
7y 0m born naturally on 7yr3
Then we use ibf's again for every remaining heat starting at the next heat at 8y11, so:
8y 11m born 8yr11
10y 7m born 10yr7
12y 3m born 12y3
13y 11m remember to nest but can be born whenever if you have the space to keep her >14yr. <3


Without ibf (with Zebra heart at 2y):
2y born 2y3
3y 11m born 4y2
5y 10m heat will be born at 6y1
7y 9m heat will be born at 8yr0
9y 8 born 9y11
11y 7 born 11y10
13y 6 born 13y9
& that's her 7 natural heats.




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Terrinthia [G1] (#97101)


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2023-08-27 17:45:19
Rah - I think your math checks out! So, if I IBF a lioness who is currently 2y 6mo, I will have to use 2 yohimbe barks to get her the extra heat?



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โค› Rah (#156300)

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Posted on
2023-08-27 17:56:28
Yes.

2yr6 with an 18 day cooldown instead of 20 days does display 7 heats left only if every litter after that are ibf'ed.

Her schedule after that would be,
4yr
5y 8m
7y 4m
9y 0m
10y 8m
12y 4m
14y 0m <~ Cutting it close !


So, it's doable!

(Edit: She will need all 6 ibf's & to be bred on the first day of heat for all remaining cycles though, after the 2 barks are used sometime before she turns 4yr... if bred after the first day of her heat at 4yr ~> 12y4 or if any ibf's are missed she'll lose that 8th heat without more barks. )

( ... Don't do this on mobile. This response took me a while, woops XD ) Thank you as well! <3



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Edited on 27/08/23 @ 18:35:16 by โ™ฎ Rah [Clean 1stGen Sunrise] (#156300)







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