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| Posted by | -STUCK- Feedback Request: New Layout |
 Katze (#3)  
Heavenly View Forum Posts  Posted on 2023-10-13 22:29:46 |
Quoted from the October Development Update #61: New Lioden LayoutWe previously shared a preview of a new layout that we had designed for Lioden's recode. There was a mixed reaction, and we've taken that on board. We went back to square one - we'd like to get your feedback on a new design that we've created, heavily inspired by the current layout - just spruced up a bit, and modernized to use more current web technology! Some Notes: * This is not the final iteration of the layout, it's a preview build - there may be minor issues that will be fixed, or things that we rearrange. Please don't worry about bug reporting or making suggestions for repositioning at this point - we're looking for feedback about how the layout as a whole feels to you! * This layout should be fully mobile responsive, including the lion images and their layers * We are about 99% of the way with color contrast accessibility, and the new accent colors (buttons, progress bars [hunger, energy, etc]) should be colorblind friendly. * Alerts can cause a problem due to very similar brightnesses so icons have been added to alerts to counteract any bad interactions with colorblindness. * Layout Preview Settings: At the bottom of the page there are two options for layout settings. * Text can be resized to your preference within a range. The current default text size (90%) is the most similar to Lioden's current text size. 100% will be the new default when this layout launches, but we will automatically set everyone who is a member at the time to 90% so it's less of a harsh adjustment right away. The plan is that when the layout is implemented, this will be a setting on your account that you can change at will. * The site's theme can be changed to the game's existing layout themes (Day/Default, Night and Desert) and there is a new Dark theme. We are still tweaking Dark theme, and it's important to note that Night and Desert are lower contrast themes and may cause accessibility issues. Preview a Lion Page View the Theme Elements Page Bonus: Landing Page (Xylax is unhappy about the age of the art we've used, it will be updated ;D) Please give any and all feedback within this topic! We may not be able to respond to all comments, but we will read everything and take your thoughts into account. UPDATE: Post by Abbey (#1) UPDATE 2: Post by Abbey (#1)  67 players like this post! Like? Edited on 14/10/23 @ 05:31:04 by a Moderator |
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Abbey (#1)
Usual View Forum Posts Posted on 2023-10-14 05:49:42 |
Theme Elements page is just a showcase for some of the elements of the site, it's not going to be a page in itself, and definitely not the home page. It shows all of the alert colours, button colours, the "feature" element (where Nirah is), some items, etc. 0 players like this post! Like? |
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dave (#437773)
Confused View Forum Posts Posted on 2023-10-14 05:50:45 |
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Kuma ™ (#16165)
View Forum Posts Posted on 2023-10-14 05:51:51 |
To accommodate those with colour blindness, and for players who don’t want to see the new contrasts and bolder features, can an option be implemented such as day/night/desert layout, but instead with the contrast and saturations that can be toggled? 3 players like this post! Like? |
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Abbey (#1)
Usual View Forum Posts Posted on 2023-10-14 05:51:59 |
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Auris (#229394)
View Forum Posts Posted on 2023-10-14 05:52:17 |
 Actually, maybe, with the decor- I'm not sure what the equipped decorations button is supposed to do (take you to equipper/a similar page I think?) but it could be a decent idea to make it a toggle to switch with the markings table, as it would take a similarish amount of space, I think. I'm not sure if that's a good idea (or possible- I'm only good with really simple HTML coding) but it's worth throwing out there. 0 players like this post! Like? |
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PurpleCandyCorn (#240646)
Blessed View Forum Posts Posted on 2023-10-14 05:52:25 |
I really like how easy it is on the eyes to navigate and it feels a lot neater too! I really think this'll benefit new players as well 1 player likes this post! Like? |
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jester [im autistic] ☘️ | 🇵🇸 (#187561) View Forum Posts Posted on 2023-10-14 05:52:36 |
I'm going to be really honest I have no idea what all the people going 'it looks like wolvden' are seeing. I feel like a lot of these people may have had very limited interaction with Wolvden, and therefore aren't familiar with the way it looks. While yes, the tables when you scroll down can look rather similar... so do the tables on current Lioden compared to Wolvden's tables. The only real difference between (current) Lioden tables and Wolvden tables is that Breeding Data is in a straight line rather than in its own section next to Currents, and that stats are beside the wolf rather than below next to Currents. In the scenario of maybe some of you just not being as familiar with Wolvden's Layout, here's some screenshots to compare. [New] Lion Page vs [Current] Lion Page vs Wolf Page [New] Lion Data vs [Current] Lion Data vs Wolf Data In fact, even in Lioden, the Marking and other Appearance data are separate cells, which are only united by the rectangle surrounding them. This change in the new lion data vs current is entirely just visual, as the data is already coded extremely similar to this. All this does is make it separate tables rather than cells, meaning it gives more room for marking names. You can see this in inspect element. Also, to those confused, the theme page is not some page that will be present in the recode. It is entirely just there to show you what aspects of the site will look like. It shows you what shops will look like, all buttons and alerts, as well as tables. 5 players like this post! Like? |
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Abbey (#1)
Usual View Forum Posts Posted on 2023-10-14 05:52:59 |
@Kuma - those would essentially just be new themes, we can't easily implement a contrast toggle without just effectively making a new theme anyway. 0 players like this post! Like? |
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Fraekincense (#57572)
View Forum Posts Posted on 2023-10-14 05:53:32 |
@Jester the first rendition looked VERY much like Wolvden, its been edited since the first comments were made. 1 player likes this post! Like? |
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jester [im autistic] ☘️ | 🇵🇸 (#187561) View Forum Posts Posted on 2023-10-14 05:55:27 |
@Fraekinn, to be honest, I didn't even think the first rendition looked like Wolvden, either. I didn't manage to grab ss of it on my PC, but I did see the first rendition. 0 players like this post! Like? |
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Abbey (#1)
Usual View Forum Posts Posted on 2023-10-14 05:55:35 |
It's not been edited *that* much, I just moved some buttons around, added labels to the hunger/mood bar, removed some space. 0 players like this post! Like? |
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Kuma ™ (#16165)
View Forum Posts Posted on 2023-10-14 05:56:00 |
Implementing a theme called “Original” or something along those lines I think would be an excellent solution to those weary about the layout changes. Making a theme with the current background/colour schemes, etc. 3 players like this post! Like? |
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Abbey (#1)
Usual View Forum Posts Posted on 2023-10-14 05:59:04 |
It's very unlikely that we'll be offering a legacy theme. There is actually less contrast in the new layout (except for buttons) since the background is no longer white and is instead an off-white, while thebrowns/golds are all the same as current. I think the text colour may be a hint of a shade darker, #282828 (new) vs #333333 (current). 0 players like this post! Like? |
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xon [G2 Ferus RLC] (#385630)
Sapphic View Forum Posts Posted on 2023-10-14 06:00:03 |
one suggestion ill make purely on reading through the comments, (and i could be completely off the mark!) but it seems like most players spend time on LD via mobile, and this UI seems slightly more PC focused? so maybe doing a poll to see what the main device players use is, or if you already have the info just focusing the UI on more mobile than PC i'd say. ik its all WIP atm but when im on PC LD i play on 90% zoom just to space out the page a bit, and that actually messes a bit with the landing page demo, causing the background image to duplicate underneath (the main one with the lion/lioness/giraffe but again its a WIP!) and it seems like the marking tab issue with the scrolling is that if you scroll straight down on mobile you get blocked by the 20+ marking and you sort of get stuck scrolling on that. atm if you scroll through a lioness's page on mobile,, the areas are broken up by darker brown (depending what theme you are using) tabs so you know where the lioness information ends. its the same for the new one BUT the issue that im seeing is the settings box. because it has no tab to break it up when you continue scrolling, suddenly you are in the sidebar (the time/date/members online) then king info, event info, etc if that makes sense. i think the way it is currently where the settings has a darker bar to distinguish its a new tab/info box, looks way better than the new UI where its just an all white box. also i think it would be nice if you could hide that, like you can in the current. (unless i missed something, i dont think you can) hope that makes sense! https://imgur.com/a/P0xOMIY <- hopefully shows what i mean also small input maybe not sure if related, not really a big fan of all the emojis in like den pages with gifting and such, messes up some CSS's ive seen but if the whole UI is going to change anyways then the CSS's would be outdated regardless :P 3 players like this post! Like? |
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CopyCat(side) (#281213)
Hateful View Forum Posts Posted on 2023-10-14 06:01:23 |
Honestly it the new layout feels like a huge step back. It doesn’t flow near as well and the current one. I’m also not a fan of how rounded and Bubblee everything looks. It screams to my OCD that it’s not right and reminds me a lot more of what is over on wolvden, a game that’s no where near this one yet, and it’s one of the reasons I’m not also playing that one. I really hope this it’s not put in place. I’m not against changing things, but our current layout is mikes ahead of the one previewed. If your asking what need to be moved around….it just need to be better spaced. Honestly, I don’t feel like any real changes are needed to the current one. The only thing that really needs anyone attention is how when you are in your un sorted, there should be a tab at top for your Territory. There is one when you are in your other caves, but then your switch to unsorted and it’s gone and all that’s there is home and I always hit that thinking it’ll take me back to my home page. I get that den is right above it…..but why have it for your caves but not your unsorted? I know it’s not a cave but it does act as one in my opinion. 9 players like this post! Like? |
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