I do agree with yharman. I understand it's limiting only using one account as I do it year around, but it's a balanced way to do it.

Also I am aware of limitations being added, but it's still extremely exploitable.

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You have your freedom of opinion with expression and so do others. We both explained out sides and we both disagree with eachother still. That is something I can respect and I hope you have a nice journey.

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Look, love (lmk if you don't like being called love), I am genuinely interested in an idea like this, but it needs to have more than a few limitations. Perhaps a max amount of times a lion can be put in and taken out or something.

Either way while I do genuinely love the dies of havingore security, I don't see it being added in all honesty.

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To be honestly I started typing my comment before you posted yours so I didn't see it until after I posted it anyways. You are always welcome to add ideas onto it to make it more limiting.

Also I am ok being called love because Im a southerner. Practically raised with it as a name /j /lh

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Max amounts you can freeze a lion would be a good way to balance it I think. This would prevent valuable lions from having their lifespans extended by RL years while being taken out to breed + bark.

Max Freezes: 3
Cannot Be Pregnant
Cannot Be Nursing
Must Be Fully Fed / Amused Upon Freezing
No Items Can Be Used While Frozen
Re-Freeze Cooldown of 14 Days
Cannot Bypass Cooldown

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I think that the ability to have two accounts was implemented to prevent cheating (including allowing players to legally freeze their lions), but probably not for just playing the same game twice simultaneously? In my opinion, the idea discussed here would be great, but only if anyone was allowed just one account (as in Wolvden, afaik).

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I agree with @Yharman's conditions as it;s the most limiting, while allowing users some more free will with the hibernation den.

@growrr i understand that, but having two accounts doesnt at all seem to prevent any kind of cheating, infact it allows people to get to a lot of achievments a LOT easier, and therefore having a hibernation den also allows that, meaning there is no change except for the den itself and actually being able to *maybe* access both accounts year-round depending on the amount of lions you want frozen and the amount of slots available. However, having two accounts, or limiting yourself to only one, means you have to rely on other users' to store your lions which is just plain theft if they dont return them and not really classed as cheating imo

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I think ultimately, my biggest concern, is that we as users can sit here and iron it out and balance it... and there's no guarantee they will implement it balanced.

When my Grandpaws suggestion was added, it was to turn them into a game function. they didn't add ANYTHING i put with the grandpaws, turning them into useless lions, a secondary submale situation. we can't even use them for treasure hunting. Several gold bases added were suggested with the intent to make the Z bases useful. That wasn't done. There's been others i cant remember right now. It's just a crap shoot.

There's no telling if this will be implemented in a sane way, and that's my fear. I'm worried they will look at this suggestion and cherry pick it in a way that harms the game.

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I'll try to edit the main post with the varying suggestions sometime today, I've been super busy.

I understand the concern about the negative impacts it could have on the game and I do want to come up with ways to make the suggestion to implement as well balanced as we can figure and hope for the best.

As the game stands right now, it is already extremely unfair. Some people get to use both of their accounts to farm events (which has gotten all the easier with the quality of life update that lets people transfer event currency between accounts) while some people need to keep their sides for themselves but some people extend that to friends (which is technically against ToS but the fact that it is so common says there is a NEED).

People who are able able to put IRL income are already able to exceed the capabilities of the average F2P player and I will fully admit this suggestion comes from a place of frustration where I work a full time job and I can't put as much actual time into grinding events as I would like and I am further handicapped by having a frozen account with the intent of just keeping my RLCs alive long enough to have another clone so I don't lose the line entirely. I do think lions dying should be a natural part of the cycle of Lioden.

I agree there should be limitations like only so many lions can be in the cave or each slot for the hybernation cave costing GB and some of the other suggestions people have made.

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I support, I think it’s a great idea but should come at a rather expensive cost, as it’s a luxury not a needed thing. Definitely some room for suggestions and ideas but in general Lovely idea lilu!

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Seriously if you have a dang agreement with that account... and you know they are returning them within said time frame. And if not you should be able to get them back why cant we sell heats of frozen lions. Like I payed 130 gb for a pon. I Payed some money for the freezer account to freeze her. They shouldn't be considered the owner at all for her so I should be able to sell her heats while shes frozen. Cuz shes old as crud. And I'd like to wait a minute to pull her into february. so definitely support!

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Wolvesofthenight (#101070) :: TBH a lot of that issue could be remedied by adapting the code from Wolvden for traveling wolves for protection of the owner's lions.

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Yeah but I dunno how that'd be able to work. but gosh I agree that would be incredible

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Without knowing what's do-able on the coding system, hard to say. I have a vague idea of a concept but not enough brain juice today to articulate it lmao.

I genuinely believe that an expensive, limited item could be added to events to de-age a lion by up to 1 year could be added to the game and retain value. Maybe dump it in November and set it to 400 ScB. Let it be used once per lifetime - not unlike the aging springs in April. Could be an immensely valuable tool for Raffle Lioness breeders and hybrid breeders, and help off-set some of the age related woes.

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Supporting! People usually have to use their side account to freeze them for now, which takes away from their ability to use both accounts for big events and I'm not sure whether the devs count a friend holding a lion for you as advertising on behalf of someone else. Being able to have them hibernate on your account would be a great idea. Maybe the cave can have space for 2-3 lions you can have hibernating at once and have to pay for additional hibernation slots after that.

This might be something that would have to wait until after the recode, but it would be worth it imo.

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