Hello!

Perhaps you'd have better luck suggesting an item to offer a slightly better chance of +1 cub size to a litter, without increasing/altering the existing maximum 4 cubs for non-DU lionesses?
This would mean a normal 1-cub litter would have a little extra boost to get 2 cubs instead,
a 2 cub Grain of Paradise litter would have a slightly better chance of being 3 cubs (equivalent to Buffalo Scrotum),
a 3 cub Buffalo Scrotum litter would have a better chance of being 4 cubs,
& all litters could still roll the rare 4 cub chance on their own without any ridiculous increase in cub counts since the item would only +1 whatever it would have been without any need to change existing mechanisms.

& Double Uterus would have double these cub numbers, but not double the chance of that extra +1 cub roll.


I don't understand why there's a change 'between 2-4, more commonly landing on 2-3, but have on the rarer side it landing on 4-6 cubs' while the Double Uterus acknowledgement has '4,6,8,(10?) Cubs' because under your suggestion a Double Uterus would actually have 4-8, commonly 4-6 cubs, with no items used, on the rarer side 8-12 cubs.
If Buffy were increased to 5 cubs (oof- I personally do not support changing a Buffy's use, or making it essentially a single-use-item-Double Uterus effect) that would mean we could guarantee 10+ cubs per DU litter instead of the normal 6+.
As a sidenote, I would not support an 'item Double Uterus effect' because that would essentially mean you could turn any lioness (except maybe Hybrids?) into Double Uterus for a day/litter which would negate most reason to breed high-value traits onto mutated lions except for fun, use other items at all, or essentially try to extend a lioness' lifetime heats/litters through use of other items like Yohimbe Barks or clones.
This would be super fun for a day or so but Double Uterus are already rather overpowered as is as a Double Uterus breeder with horrible luck with the introduction of Ochre Gnawrock, Powders, etc.
That said, I don't think you can increase normal lioness' litter counts while debuffing Double Uterus' mutation as that would not be fair either.

We can guarantee larger litter sizes with the use of items already, so I assume the primary points players are not agreeing with are:
- (Don't want to) Increase the maximum cub count for non-Double Uterus lionesses
- (Don't want to) Increase maximum cub counts without use of any breeding items


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