Posted by PLEASE PLEASE CHANGE THE JUNE EVENT

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2024-06-01 21:22:17
Ignore this small rant of mine. I was just unsure what points to make tbh xD. The spoiler has more indebth description of the problems with credits of who wrote it! As well as the person who wrote it all is in this forums replies.

I've noticed SO many people complaining about this event and especially in main chat. What I don't like about it is how hard it is to get beetles, how there's basically nothing to even DO. Usually in other events on the first day you can get right into getting beetles and have some ready for when the first shop opens. It would be nice if we could just jump into getting beetles. More motivation to actually play.

Hell keep the NPCs, keep the decor, keep the applicators I'm begging to just change the event in someway so it's more interactive. I don't like how my birthday just has the worst event. In multiple people's opinions they hate this event.

I know people will and are gonna disagree with this but it would be very nice for atleast a tiny change.

A more in depth description of the problems (This was all written by [β™°] Yharnam (#112370)



This suggestion has 51 supports and 17 NO supports.



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Edited on 01/06/24 @ 22:32:51 by Zulu (ohara's hubby)πŸ’šπŸ€πŸ©΅πŸ’™ (#425914)

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Posted on
2024-06-01 21:26:00
You get beetles tomorrow when you get your battle buddy, by defeating snakes

The first day is supposed to be slow



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Posted on
2024-06-01 21:27:19
True I forgot about that but still other points still stand



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πŸŽ„β›„ leon (#208511)


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2024-06-01 21:35:49
People are whining about June? I do avoid the hell out of main chat but it's one of my favorites. I think it picks up plenty, by Lioden standards, if you're just a little patient. We don't need everything immediately. It's June first.



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Lavy (#323535)


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2024-06-01 21:42:30
Eh there’s plenty to doπŸ€·β€β™€οΈ kill the snakes, do the quests, clear the shrine, enjoy the storyline it’s just like any other month



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[β™°] Yharnam (#112370)

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Posted on
2024-06-01 21:50:04
This is going to have a metric fuck-ton (unit of measurement) of feedback and completely break down the problems with this event.

To begin with, I'll copy-paste my input on this event from a discussion thread:

You need to beat 200 snakes for one (1) applicator.
Last year, Ra had abysmally low pass rates for a lot of breeders. There's barely over 1k on site, which, considering the population boom, is wacky.

TBH the apps are prohibitively expensive. The fact that we have 3-4 days where we can't earn any KB and don't earn rewards for doing the essence quests is really bad when you factor in how much apps cost. The snakes are difficult for even high stat players to beat most of the time considering LD's miss ratio in combat is wild. On top of that, the absolutely ludicrous amount of shops you have to earn a single currency for is WACKY.

These issues are compounded by how many apps you need to buy to breed the combo bases due to low pass rate.

TBH this entire event needs a re-work. The apps should cost no more than 250 KB - that's 100 more than the next highest cost item. The first 3 days should be earnable or at the least give rewards to make up for it. The cultists need their EXP payouts scaled to lion level - getting 50 EXP is pointless for anyone past level 5.

And on top of it all, three (3) battle-focused events in a row is exhausting.

May is also a battle-focused event. And after June, here comes July with another event with very difficult encounters that they needed to write an entire guide for players on how to beat them.

I'm so tired lol...

This event has far more issues with it than simply not earning in the beginning of the month. For example, other events lower the cost of older applicators. June does not. However, every single year, they add a new sought-after combo and 3 new applicators.

There are currently 18 old apps and 21 apps total, more than any other event on LD. And each one of these costs 400 KB.

Historically, "low currency drop" months price down the cost of applicators to make them more achievable. February is a great example of a low currency drop month with achievable content. New applicators cost 200 HS, old ones get lowered to 150 HS, and players also have the Flirt function to earn income in addition to battling and exploring.

March is another low currency drop month that's balanced well. Applicators aplenty, including marking apps, which players can earn both in the Poacher Chase minigame or by battling and exploring.

Conversely, the ONLY way to earn this month is through battling enemies that are very tough. And the same currency is spread across not one, not two, not even three shops, but FOUR shops now that they've added the Shrines on top of everything else.

Suggested Fixes:
- Lower applicator cost to 250 KB per applicator.
- Lower 2+ year old applicators to 200 KB per applicator.
- Have Thoth, Horus and Khnum encounters provide x1 KB per encounter interacted with.
- Give players x5 KB and EXP x 50 for completing "Essence Gathering" quests at the beginning of the month.
- Fix Anubis. He still sucks.

RE: Anubis
There are still times he does absolutely nothing for the entire duration of the fight. My suggestion is to have him lower the damage an enemy does to you by -3, the opposite of what Set does. Let the guard dog guard.



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Edited on 01/06/24 @ 21:57:38 by [β™°] Yharnam (#112370)

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Posted on
2024-06-01 21:55:45
Now that is an analysis I'm inclined to agree with. The OG suggestion comes off as a bit ranty, sorry OP, which never quite inclines me to support when there's not much thought put into the why of the suggestion.

ETA: oh the comment above me... left? lol RIP



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Edited on 01/06/24 @ 21:56:11 by 🀎 leon | semi hiatus (#208511)

[β™°] Yharnam (#112370)

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2024-06-01 21:58:13
Sorry, Leon. I was gunna move it to another, more organized suggestion thread before someone responded but i put it back since you replied XDD



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πŸŽ„β›„ leon (#208511)


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Posted on
2024-06-01 22:05:29
LOL gotcha 🀣



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Firenkyo 🌼 (#128989)

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Posted on
2024-06-01 22:35:15
YES please! The snakes are awful to beat and they're practically the only way to get KB! The apps are WAY too expensive



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Posted on
2024-06-01 23:18:38
I tried fighting the snakes and got my ass handed to me.

Even in the beginner zone the fights are too hard, clearly this event is not beginner with low stated lion friendly. From experience on my older account in previous years even the 'buddy' doesn't help much.

If I need to cough up a bunch of GB to king a stat monster just to have a chance your event is broken.




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[β™°] Yharnam (#112370)

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Posted on
2024-06-01 23:40:11
I'd like to also point out a counterpoint to my own note of lowering the prices, where the market's state is incredibly important to take into consideration for June. While I'd argue that Devs definitely need to lower the prices, they need to handle this carefully.

June apps have routinely held value outside of June. As many of us know, almost the entire LD market has collapsed.

If devs decide that lowering last year's apps to 300 KB and apps that are 2+ years to 250, that would still be an immense help, and may be a little more balanced to help ensure their value doesn't drop too much.

But current app availability for June apps versus every other month's apps also provides further proof of just how difficult these apps are to obtain. I'm using Branch Listings versus Trading Center because TC prices are usually inflated artificially to encourage trade offers.

An Overview of Current Market
Royal Coat of Bast: 33 GB -- 2 Branch Listings
Royal Coat of Anubis: 40 GB -- 1 Branch Listing
Royal Coat of Seth: 35 to 50 GB -- 3 Branch Listings

Favour of Bast: 25 GB -- 10 Branch Listings
Favour of Anubis: 22 GB -- 11 Branch Listings
Favour of Seth: 20 GB -- 8 Branch Listings

Vestige of Bast: 20 GB -- 13 Branch Listings
Vestige of Anubis: 30 GB -- 7 Branch Listings
Vestige of Seth: 25 GB -- 12 Branch Listings

Grace of Bast: 30 GB -- 6 Branch Listings
Grace of Anubis: 20 GB -- 14 Branch Listings
Grace of Seth: 20 GB -- 11 Branch Listings

Relic of Bast: 20 GB -- 9 Branch Listings
Relic of Anubis: 23 GB -- 4 Branch Listings
Relic of Seth: 24 GB -- 9 Branch Listings

Token of Bast: 25 GB -- 14 Branch Listings
Token of Anubis: 22 GB -- 12 Branch Listings
Token of Seth: 40 GB -- 3 Branch Listings



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Edited on 02/06/24 @ 01:08:11 by [β™°] Yharnam (#112370)

TrollBerserker[PFM]
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Posted on
2024-06-04 01:28:12
After abandoning this event compleyely in the last year I'm willing to give it a try now that there's at least a tiny bit of non "beat-up-tons-of-op-enemies" storyline.

Anyway it is still one of my most-disliked events and I can't be the only one who tinks Daily Quests are ridiculously hard?
Battles in explore (any enemies) : 20 for June 15 for October Heaven/Hell, 12 for Menhit in July. The only larger number is 30 for Harbinger, but it's a Hard quest which means you have a choice to do something easier.
Battles in explore (Lions) : 15 for June, 10 for Vashkartzen in March and 8 for Appolyon in July.
Battles in explore (Other specific non-event enemies) : 10 for June, 10 Henas in January but the stoyline makes Hyenas appear more frequently and in packs, 5 for October Nirah (Rabid animals ere technicaly event but they're not exceptionaly stronger than their regular counterparts).
Battles in explore (Strong event enemies) : 10 for June, 5 for October Heaven/Hell.

So the number of enemies you have to defeat for daily quests is generally greater than other events, making these one of the hardest event quests. Of course RNG fultility that is there especially for Shaman and Harbinger quests may be annoying, but I just wasted an entire energy bar meeting exactly zero non-lion enemies for the quest, so..



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Edited on 04/06/24 @ 01:33:00 by TrollBerserker[PFM] ⚑ (#110675)

Victor (#215555)

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Posted on
2024-06-04 12:28:50
I also think the spawn rate (not sure if that's the correct term in this case) for the explore enemies is insanely low. I just went through 2 full bars of energy on my side account and never encountered a single event enemy. I have this feeling towards a ton of events in the game, but this one seems to be worse.
If they're gonna make the beetles practically only available via winning battles, they need to either lower the price of the applicators to something reasonable (like 250, as suggested above) or they need to make the battles spawn much more frequently. I really love Egyptian-themed things and so many items and apps in this event are awesome, it's a shame that the insanely inflated prices and difficult quests/enemies make it so unenjoyable for everyone.



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Posted on
2024-06-04 12:40:00
Support. The snakes are hard to find, hard to beat (ish) and only 2kb per snake? Given the energy and time that takes, the apps should be WAY cheaper…
I love the June event otherwise, very pretty decor and apps



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