Posted by Please increase the Jaglion encounters

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Wicked🍉 (#420425)

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2024-06-29 13:44:55
I’ve got a bone to pick with them.

I recently saw in chat that someone used 100 energy boosts (which is a min of 10,000 energy) and still didn’t complete quest two.

I understand that staff could want to make it harder then the tigons to get. I understand that staff could want to slow the rate that Jaglions get onto the server. I understand that it’s already been upped twice by abbey. I understand that’s peoples GB they can spend it how they like.

I’m not a dev. For any game at all. In fact I don’t even know where to start. But I know for a fact that it shouldn’t take a minimum of 10,000 energy to ALMOST finish day two.

Also the fact of new level five players are spending 2k sb to do this adventure which probably takes up their savings. Most probably don’t even have that. And now they’re left questioning their choices if it’s even worth it. Yes, I know that they can get it back easily, or what seems like easily for more experienced players. But 1, it doesn’t set a good example of the game for them, and 2 it’s less the fact that they can get it back and more the fact that that these new players (or everyone really) will spend what I’m predicting 2 weeks max to complete this adventure. Knowing what the second quest is that doesn’t particularly sound very fun to them does it? And what’s the third? Even harder than this one? Probably.

Also addressing some points that have been made to me over the course of today:

“You could get a jaglion from this”
200gb or more worth of energy boosts for 20 0.6% chances of a jaglion doesn’t seem worth it

“It’s already been upped twice”
Which leads me to wonder what it was before?? How do they see this panning out?? What was their plan here?? How low did they have it before??

“How high would you raise it”
As I said prior. I’m not a dev. I don’t know how this game works behind the scene. But what I do know is that you shouldn’t have to burn through 600+ energy and get one encounter.

Personally I find it a little discouraging that we haven’t heard anything from staff about this issue other than Abbey upping it twice last night. With this being such a hyped up drop I’d thought we’d hear from them about it by now. At least an explanation as to why it’s so high would calm quite a few players down. Leaving players to “wait and see” as some players have put it is NOT the way to go about such a hyped up drop

Let me be clear, I appreciate the devs, everyone on the staff team. They work their arses off to make sure we get the best game experience possible. Even the Jag drop. 7 stages, 300+ markings to draw god knows how many bases. They worked their arses off to make this possible. But they have majorly overshot how hard to make this event and now the radio silence is extremely discouraging.

EDIT:

I actually worked it out. Assuming the average to complete the quest is 5,000 energy, you sleep eight hours and you have zero commitments, without roasted lambs the second quest will be done on the 6th day.

Now, I wouldn’t say people are entitled. When you think “eh it’s just five days it’s no bother” then you’d be fine. But the fact there’s a third day to this too which will most likely be harder and will most likely take longer you’d be right on track for my two week prediction. Even if it takes another 6 days that’s still twelve days.

And even then there are going to be people that will take a week to complete this quest.

I’m not saying it has to be a walk in the park, I’m saying there has to be some improvement. Still keep it challenging but at least make it feasible to finish this quest in like 3-4 days and the third in like 5-7 if the third is harder still

Someone else also made a point that I would like to add:
People’s lions are in heat and time is ticking. There is no guarantee when they will complete the quest so everyone is unsure of when they can breed their lions. And with the fact that there’s still a third quest to go, it can be a stressor of when you can breed them. Do you need to waste even more sb for in heat ncls? Do you need to wait even longer for your energy to refill enough times to get 20 ncls? Do you need to spend even more money to buy catnip to encourage the ncls? Or will your lions luckily be in heat by then?

Update:
Someone said that if it took a week to complete day 2 then they’d understand why people would call for it to be upped. Some people have been going at day 2 for 9 days and are only just half way. People who have absolutely no commitments and can use up every single full bar have been going at it for 9 days. I feel like there’s a difference between being patient now and it just,, being incredibly slow.

I do agree with person in the thread with the RNG in general needing to be fixed - I also share that thought that maybe it’s a little fucked. Because I don’t understand how I can finish day 2 on my side just shy of 6 days but some people are taking 9 just to get half way through. I ended up buying my way through day 2 after five days on my main and ended up using around 90 full bars in total (boosts and naturally waiting) which is far over what the supposed average of 55 is.

I also feel like turning off the events messed with the RNG of the jaglion encounters. Because I managed to blast through the remaining 35 encounters I had on my side in 3 days. Staff said that turning it off didn’t hide the jaglion encounters. It clearly didn’t hide them all but it clearly messed with getting them. I and when I asked around on discord servers all the people who responded encountered similar results. Getting more encounters with the event turned on vs off. Whether that was tested or not I don’t know. But if it was I don’t understand how they could have missed it? Unless it messed up after launch?



This suggestion has 76 supports and 73 NO supports.



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Edited on 10/07/24 @ 10:22:56 by Sunshine|G2 Incense|🍉 (#420425)

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2024-06-29 13:58:01
It’s taken me as well as others around 40-50 boosts (myself 41) to finish day 2. No where near 100.




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2024-06-29 13:59:24
It could be that person is extremely unlucky then. But regardless, 4,000-5,000 energy, or 80-100gb is still incredibly high



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Kuma ™ (#16165)


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2024-06-29 14:01:49
It is, yes. But then again it’s not meant to be easy and I quite appreciate the challenge! For a first-gen hybrid, if anyone and everyone could get it right away, the idea of value would be moot. Not using GB and getting a percentage of the quest done is a great accomplishment in itself. I mean hell, the interstellar quest took DAYS if not weeks



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2024-06-29 14:04:06
I dunno, I'm neutral at this.
Yes it's a pain in the ass, but there is no rush to complete it. I think it's more than doable in a month and if someone wants to spend a lot of money on boosts to get it asap they can. I did spend money on boosts, yes it is expensive but I don't think I had to.
I personally like that they made it hard, it's more of a challenge. (even tho I get frustrated with energy bars wasted)
On another not I don't think it would be fair to the players that already sank their money into it, if it's suddenly much easier they will feel cheated.
I spent about 15 energy boosts and lamb, got up to 25/45 and just accepted I won't be able to do it in a day My side account had no boosts and is at 9 so for someone not wanting to go with boosts it will just take longer.



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2024-06-29 14:04:23
But that’s the thing. Not using any gb is an incredibly hard accomplishment. An accomplishment that you could get absolutely nothing from. Like great if you get a jag. But 9 times out of ten players won’t. It’s such hard feat for such a high chance of no payout.



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2024-06-29 14:05:48
yes, but it is doable - it's like crbs and many other mechanics in this game. Gb will make it easier, but it's not necesarry



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2024-06-29 14:06:03
As stated before they chose to use that gb and spend that much on this adventure. Would it be slightly unfair? Yeah. But that doesn’t mean that every other player has to slug along because some people decided it would be worth it to spend god knows how much



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Tharkenta (#160101)


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2024-06-29 14:06:32
What would be a realistic amount of energy in your opinion to finish this quest?
Jaglions are brand new and currently topic number 1 in chat. I believe some people are experiencing the fear of missing out if they're not able to finish this quest fast enough to keep up with others.
I personally don't mind these encounters being rare, I am not supposed to finish each quest with in a few days, since it's supposed to be challenging.



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2024-06-29 14:07:02
With there not being a time limit on the quest, and having until August 1st to start it whereas any player could conjure up 2kSB in a month, I think it’ highly possible for ANY player to complete it. Albeit it may take some time.

It can be frustrating seeing as it’s day 2 but patience is key.

All in all, I don’t support raising the odds. Though I understand why others may want to.



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2024-06-29 14:07:27
The more pressing matter is why wasn’t it tested? And if it was, why did they think that it would be okay to release it like it is?? I understand their thought process but it’s causing massive upset



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2024-06-29 14:10:57
@Tharkenta as said before. I’m not a dev. I don’t know how it works. But 5,000 energy for quest two seems quite high. Assuming that someone sleeps 8 hours a night, has no responsibilities and can sit on their device all day they can get 8 full bars on an account. Which is 800 a day minimum. Which would mean it would take just over 6 days to complete quest 2 based off what was said earlier in this thread. At this point it’s not even about being first. It’s taking a drag and people aren’t happy



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2024-06-29 14:12:32
Either one of the two needs to be done; either encounters need to be upped OR the boosts need to get an activation button so we can choose when to activate them when we want.

It could be a fun challange to do, if only it didnt have a nightmarish goal tied with it - finding 20 in-heat females in time for the boost to activate. Its the first 20 females you breed after finishing the quest that you'd need to breed but how on Earth can you prepare them to be in heat in time when you have no idea how many days it will take you to collect all encounters?! I cannot help feeling stressed because once I finish the quest, I will be breeding-locked until all of my needed females go into heat, but what if it takes me so long they will all be out of heat then? I will have to spend a week not being able to breed my king?

It should either be predictable to obtain OR predictable to use. Being unpredictable in both makes the otherwise fun challange feel stressful because of that looming "no idea when you'll need those 20 special females in heat at once".



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2024-06-29 14:14:28
I would most definitely support having the choice of when to activate the boost ^ that is an excellent idea.



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Mad Hyena (#29080)

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2024-06-29 14:16:55
Isnt there already a suggestion for that? People were talking about it, so Im sure somebody already made one.

If the boost had a predictable usability, Id definitely be all in for it to last for longer and collect those encounters at a comfortable pace over many days. I wouldnt need all those 20 females in heat immediately to the time I get the boost, if I could choose when to apply it, Id breed them as soon as they later come into heat, without having to sweat about accidentally breeding it to wrong lioness.



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Edited on 29/06/24 @ 14:17:10 by Mad Hyena (#29080)

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2024-06-29 14:39:02
I've used 9 full meat pies and a energy boost and still have at least 2 encounters needed haven't seen any since 7am ldt today lol



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