Posted by Please increase the Jaglion encounters

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Wicked🍉 (#420425)

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2024-06-29 13:44:55
I’ve got a bone to pick with them.

I recently saw in chat that someone used 100 energy boosts (which is a min of 10,000 energy) and still didn’t complete quest two.

I understand that staff could want to make it harder then the tigons to get. I understand that staff could want to slow the rate that Jaglions get onto the server. I understand that it’s already been upped twice by abbey. I understand that’s peoples GB they can spend it how they like.

I’m not a dev. For any game at all. In fact I don’t even know where to start. But I know for a fact that it shouldn’t take a minimum of 10,000 energy to ALMOST finish day two.

Also the fact of new level five players are spending 2k sb to do this adventure which probably takes up their savings. Most probably don’t even have that. And now they’re left questioning their choices if it’s even worth it. Yes, I know that they can get it back easily, or what seems like easily for more experienced players. But 1, it doesn’t set a good example of the game for them, and 2 it’s less the fact that they can get it back and more the fact that that these new players (or everyone really) will spend what I’m predicting 2 weeks max to complete this adventure. Knowing what the second quest is that doesn’t particularly sound very fun to them does it? And what’s the third? Even harder than this one? Probably.

Also addressing some points that have been made to me over the course of today:

“You could get a jaglion from this”
200gb or more worth of energy boosts for 20 0.6% chances of a jaglion doesn’t seem worth it

“It’s already been upped twice”
Which leads me to wonder what it was before?? How do they see this panning out?? What was their plan here?? How low did they have it before??

“How high would you raise it”
As I said prior. I’m not a dev. I don’t know how this game works behind the scene. But what I do know is that you shouldn’t have to burn through 600+ energy and get one encounter.

Personally I find it a little discouraging that we haven’t heard anything from staff about this issue other than Abbey upping it twice last night. With this being such a hyped up drop I’d thought we’d hear from them about it by now. At least an explanation as to why it’s so high would calm quite a few players down. Leaving players to “wait and see” as some players have put it is NOT the way to go about such a hyped up drop

Let me be clear, I appreciate the devs, everyone on the staff team. They work their arses off to make sure we get the best game experience possible. Even the Jag drop. 7 stages, 300+ markings to draw god knows how many bases. They worked their arses off to make this possible. But they have majorly overshot how hard to make this event and now the radio silence is extremely discouraging.

EDIT:

I actually worked it out. Assuming the average to complete the quest is 5,000 energy, you sleep eight hours and you have zero commitments, without roasted lambs the second quest will be done on the 6th day.

Now, I wouldn’t say people are entitled. When you think “eh it’s just five days it’s no bother” then you’d be fine. But the fact there’s a third day to this too which will most likely be harder and will most likely take longer you’d be right on track for my two week prediction. Even if it takes another 6 days that’s still twelve days.

And even then there are going to be people that will take a week to complete this quest.

I’m not saying it has to be a walk in the park, I’m saying there has to be some improvement. Still keep it challenging but at least make it feasible to finish this quest in like 3-4 days and the third in like 5-7 if the third is harder still

Someone else also made a point that I would like to add:
People’s lions are in heat and time is ticking. There is no guarantee when they will complete the quest so everyone is unsure of when they can breed their lions. And with the fact that there’s still a third quest to go, it can be a stressor of when you can breed them. Do you need to waste even more sb for in heat ncls? Do you need to wait even longer for your energy to refill enough times to get 20 ncls? Do you need to spend even more money to buy catnip to encourage the ncls? Or will your lions luckily be in heat by then?

Update:
Someone said that if it took a week to complete day 2 then they’d understand why people would call for it to be upped. Some people have been going at day 2 for 9 days and are only just half way. People who have absolutely no commitments and can use up every single full bar have been going at it for 9 days. I feel like there’s a difference between being patient now and it just,, being incredibly slow.

I do agree with person in the thread with the RNG in general needing to be fixed - I also share that thought that maybe it’s a little fucked. Because I don’t understand how I can finish day 2 on my side just shy of 6 days but some people are taking 9 just to get half way through. I ended up buying my way through day 2 after five days on my main and ended up using around 90 full bars in total (boosts and naturally waiting) which is far over what the supposed average of 55 is.

I also feel like turning off the events messed with the RNG of the jaglion encounters. Because I managed to blast through the remaining 35 encounters I had on my side in 3 days. Staff said that turning it off didn’t hide the jaglion encounters. It clearly didn’t hide them all but it clearly messed with getting them. I and when I asked around on discord servers all the people who responded encountered similar results. Getting more encounters with the event turned on vs off. Whether that was tested or not I don’t know. But if it was I don’t understand how they could have missed it? Unless it messed up after launch?



This suggestion has 76 supports and 73 NO supports.



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Edited on 10/07/24 @ 10:22:56 by Sunshine|G2 Incense|🍉 (#420425)

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Posted on
2024-06-29 14:40:57
That is honestly ridiculous like-



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2024-06-29 15:16:54
I don't personally see an issue- there's no time limit, so all it takes is patience and time. The reward is 20(!) jaglion breeding boosts so I think a little difficulty is alright.
It kind of seems like a choice to make sure that people don't feel pressured to finish it as fast as possible to me, to make it feel better if someone can't roll/doesn't have time to complete a step, so they aren't being left behind while the rest of the site continues the quest.
I mean, if the encounters were made less sparse, I wouldn't complain either, but there isn't really a big detriment to having them be rarer right now that I can see. You don't need to spend GB to finish it faster- I know I won't. It's alright to take your time.



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2024-06-29 15:31:08
Not everyone spent GB I know I didn't but some people would like to have the lion in a timely manner not that they are rushing none the less its not a guarantee to get the hybrid.



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2024-06-29 15:43:30
I don't think people dislike a challenge, more so they don't want to grind away at this single quest for around a couple weeks at most just to get to ANOTHER quest that will likely be more difficult than this one, especially when their lionesses (including CRBs) are slowly clocking down on the timer. I get where they're coming from, because there's a point in "maintaining patience" where it just gets tedious. It's slow, you're button-pressing just to get THROUGH it and nothing more, which is why people are spamming energy boosts in the first place, so of course people want that done in a timely manner if they can manage it.

There's just no substance BUT the possibility of a Jaglion from what we know at this time, so I don't blame people for wanting the encounters a tad bit more common.

It don't gotta be a walk in the park either, but if people are going through 5 energy bars and not getting one Jaguar track multiple times, I dunno LOL



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Edited on 29/06/24 @ 16:25:41 by Cupid [G4 Velvet x7 BO | 920+] (#379527)

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2024-06-29 16:16:00
Personally no support.

I'm using no energy items and I've got plenty of encounters as is. This isn't meant to be finished same day but it certainly won't take weeks, at MOST this proportion will take me 5 days with no items.

Sounds like people are mad they can't speed through it tbh. It's day 2 of the adventure, people getting all fussy about it seems childish/entitled. It's way easier than the other adventure already, it genuinely won't take that long.

For reference I used at most 10 energy bars today and got 5 encounters, it's not a lot but I believe the difficulty isn't /that/ hard especially considering it gives you a boost for a brand new, likely insanely profitable hybrid.

I could see this reaction if a week had passed and people were still stuck, but c'mon it's been less than 24 hours since this next portion has been accessed.



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2024-06-29 16:17:20
This!!! I’m not saying it has to be easy. I’m just saying it has to be easier

The fact that we’ve got one more after this too that will likely be a week long is also extremely discouraging.



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2024-06-29 16:24:29
@espenfalls I actually worked it out. Assuming the average to complete the quest is 5,000 energy, you sleep eight hours and you have zero commitments, without roasted lambs the second quest will be done on the 6th day.

Now, I wouldn’t say people are entitled. When you think “eh it’s just five days it’s no bother” then you’d be fine. But the fact there’s a third day to this too which will most likely be harder and will most likely take longer you’d be right on track for my two week prediction. Even if it takes another 6 days that’s still twelve days.

And even then there are going to be people that will take a week to complete this quest.

I’m not saying it has to be a walk in the park, I’m saying there has to be some improvement. Still keep it challenging but at least make it feasible to finish this quest in like 3-4 days and the third in like 5-7 if the third is harder still



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2024-06-29 16:32:51
No support. Once you start the quests there's no time limit; like the july quests. Now if there was a time limit to finish only then would I support. I was there for the Tigon explore boost. Them guaranteeing 20 Jaglion boosts at the end of the quest is what I consider to be generous when compared to Tigon.



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2024-06-29 16:39:50
Compared to the tigon boost event in 2018, where I don't think a single person managed to get 20 boosts (even on two accounts combined!) this one is a hell of a lot easier for a MUCH bigger reward. Back then, it was a random rare explore encounter over the course of a bit over a month, and most players got probably between 1-6 boosts total. People who spent 200 GB on 100 energy boosts maybe ended up with 10 breeding boosts. I don't remember getting a single one.

The other adventure is also longer and more mind-numbingly tedious, so this one has to compare at least a bit in difficulty. We don't even know what the third quest is, it could be easy. Vredefort quest didn't just have harder and harder quests as you progressed, you'd have a couple easier ones sprinkled in too.

Honestly, the way they set up this quest leaves it open for players to spend some GB and rush through it quicker (if they're lucky with encounters, anyway, same as any other explore-based stuff). They could have extended it by making it like, 200 steps per quest PLUS x amount of whatever encounter(s) they wanna put - for example, 200 steps and 20 tracks found on quest 2, 200 steps and 10 unique scratch marks, etc. That would force players to spend more rollovers to complete it, so a larger chunk of the playerbase would be around the same point of completing it.

Don't get me wrong, I'm bummed that I used 2 roasted lambs on each account today and still haven't found most of the encounters. But like, I have time lol. We all do, as long as we start the adventure before August.



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2024-06-29 17:08:25
No support. I apologize if my reply seems rude, I promise I don't mean it that way.

This quest is for the chance of a gen 1 hybrid. It's supposed to be tedious and not something to be instantly rushed through. It's also a quest that once you start it, you have as long as you need to finish it. If the quest keeps being made easier, it'll take the value away from the prize which is honestly something the market doesn't need right now. I understand it can be a little bit frustrating and daunting looking at the list of stuff to do, but it'll get done. We also have no idea what the third day will be, so as others have stated it could be something easier like the first day. There's not really a need right now to make things easier.



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2024-06-30 09:32:25
No support.

Its 20 GUARANTEED boosts at a brand new 1st gen hybrid, 40 if you have a side account. Yes, the boost is still low, but from what I've read its a LOT easier than the tigon event. Whats the point of it if you can just breeze past it in a few days? It would lower the value of them significantly if it was that easy. 2k sb isn't that hard to get in the month we have to take the quest. Theres no time limit on completing it as long as you've started it before August.

You're paying 2k sb, maybe 4k if you have a side account, for either 20 or 40 boosts for a hybrid that's bound to be worth hundreds of gb. You don't HAVE to spend gb in order to complete it, that's a choice you make. It's completely doable without spending 100+ gb on energy boosts. Yes, it'll take longer to complete it without spending that gb but, once again, its a boost for a brand new 1st gen hybrid. Theres no rush besides just wanting to be one of the first people to breed one.

From what I can tell the 3rd quest is super easy with people completing it in 5-6 energy bars, which, for me, makes the second quest being as hard as it is completely reasonable. Once again, it wouldn't make sense if we could breeze through it in only a few days.

I agree with having a choice of turning the boost on and off and being able to choose when you use it, but im completely fine with how it is. You can always get more in heat ncls as you're exploring for the clues. I managed to get dreamboat in 2-3 days just by claiming ncls for the impression and then chasing them when the time was up. I get that not everyone can do that but you can get in heat lions no problem when it comes time for breeding. Or, you can just be patient and wait for them to come back in heat.

Theres absolutely nothing rushing you to hurry up and complete the adventure except yourself. Theres nothing MAKING you spend that gb for energy boosts. Once again, the adventure is completely doable and the challenge is completely reasonable for what you're getting out of it.



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2024-06-30 18:57:46
I don't see this at all as an issue. It's meant to be hard its a 1 in 150 chance within 20 boosts for a jag. Sure it's not guaranteed but it will boosts a chance. That's a 20 in 3000 chance to get a jag with all boosts. The quest has no end date and can be completed basically whenever.

There's nothing forcing you to rush it. Sure you wanna get it done asap but boosting the encounters again ruins it all.



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2024-06-30 19:45:16
No support. This is meant to be very hard. Jags will most likely be priced around 3000GB right now. Also you have forever to finish it, no time limit at all. This is a new highly sought after hybrid.
Compare it to the ticked mod which basically everyone got since it was so easy to get it only sells for like 15gb. Having a super easy boost that only takes like a week max to get completely diminishes the value and makes it so that most people have it, which mean more people are likely to get jags, which completely ruins their value.

You have your whole life to finish this quest there's no reason to have it be done in a few days



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2024-06-30 22:21:47
Tentative support for boosting the encounter rates somewhat. I can see both sides of the argument, but for me personally;

I choose which days/months I'm online based on how my arms/wrists feel and if I think I can rollover and get the tasks done to maintain my pride without overdoing it. I'm excited for this! I want those boosts! But the uncertainty over how many days it'll take to get this round is what's doing it for me. I've been on all day since I got up @10amLDT, never letting my energy completely fill up, and I've got 3/50 encounters. 6%. (only level up + free energy boost.) (only two fights + one missed encounter)

At this rate, it'll take me over two weeks to get them all done, and that's making me not really want to rollover, because I know I'll be minmaxing explore on the days that I do, because i want the shinies ASAP!! even though the repetitive explore clicking hurts. And I'll need to budget my lionesses ect once I do get it...

idk, it feels unnecessarily grindy - but that's me, as a casual player.

TBH I think this wouldn't be as much of a problem if the news post hadn't said "A few rollovers," since I think that set people's expectations for a "one day per quest stage" requirements. If it had said "A week or so" I don't think people would be as :/ at the chance as they are.



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🎄⛄ leon (#208511)


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2024-06-30 22:31:29
While I am pretty sad that I won't have the boosts on Monday like I'd hoped, I totally understand. This is a first generation hybrid, and the quests shouldn't be a breeze. I get the FOMO and frustration but it should be difficult. My friend hasn't had a single encounter this entire time--I have plenty compared to that but still nowhere near enough to be finished yet. RNG is a cruel mistress. But it's okay for the quest to take this long for a first gen hybrid; people unfortunately probably shouldn't have expected it to be easier, and I'm guilty of that too.

ETA: I did forget that the news post said it would only take a few rollovers. That can mean different things to a lot of people. That was an unfortunate choice of words.



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Edited on 30/06/24 @ 22:33:06 by 🤎 leon (#208511)







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