Posted by Please increase the Jaglion encounters

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Wicked🍉 (#420425)

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2024-06-29 13:44:55
I’ve got a bone to pick with them.

I recently saw in chat that someone used 100 energy boosts (which is a min of 10,000 energy) and still didn’t complete quest two.

I understand that staff could want to make it harder then the tigons to get. I understand that staff could want to slow the rate that Jaglions get onto the server. I understand that it’s already been upped twice by abbey. I understand that’s peoples GB they can spend it how they like.

I’m not a dev. For any game at all. In fact I don’t even know where to start. But I know for a fact that it shouldn’t take a minimum of 10,000 energy to ALMOST finish day two.

Also the fact of new level five players are spending 2k sb to do this adventure which probably takes up their savings. Most probably don’t even have that. And now they’re left questioning their choices if it’s even worth it. Yes, I know that they can get it back easily, or what seems like easily for more experienced players. But 1, it doesn’t set a good example of the game for them, and 2 it’s less the fact that they can get it back and more the fact that that these new players (or everyone really) will spend what I’m predicting 2 weeks max to complete this adventure. Knowing what the second quest is that doesn’t particularly sound very fun to them does it? And what’s the third? Even harder than this one? Probably.

Also addressing some points that have been made to me over the course of today:

“You could get a jaglion from this”
200gb or more worth of energy boosts for 20 0.6% chances of a jaglion doesn’t seem worth it

“It’s already been upped twice”
Which leads me to wonder what it was before?? How do they see this panning out?? What was their plan here?? How low did they have it before??

“How high would you raise it”
As I said prior. I’m not a dev. I don’t know how this game works behind the scene. But what I do know is that you shouldn’t have to burn through 600+ energy and get one encounter.

Personally I find it a little discouraging that we haven’t heard anything from staff about this issue other than Abbey upping it twice last night. With this being such a hyped up drop I’d thought we’d hear from them about it by now. At least an explanation as to why it’s so high would calm quite a few players down. Leaving players to “wait and see” as some players have put it is NOT the way to go about such a hyped up drop

Let me be clear, I appreciate the devs, everyone on the staff team. They work their arses off to make sure we get the best game experience possible. Even the Jag drop. 7 stages, 300+ markings to draw god knows how many bases. They worked their arses off to make this possible. But they have majorly overshot how hard to make this event and now the radio silence is extremely discouraging.

EDIT:

I actually worked it out. Assuming the average to complete the quest is 5,000 energy, you sleep eight hours and you have zero commitments, without roasted lambs the second quest will be done on the 6th day.

Now, I wouldn’t say people are entitled. When you think “eh it’s just five days it’s no bother” then you’d be fine. But the fact there’s a third day to this too which will most likely be harder and will most likely take longer you’d be right on track for my two week prediction. Even if it takes another 6 days that’s still twelve days.

And even then there are going to be people that will take a week to complete this quest.

I’m not saying it has to be a walk in the park, I’m saying there has to be some improvement. Still keep it challenging but at least make it feasible to finish this quest in like 3-4 days and the third in like 5-7 if the third is harder still

Someone else also made a point that I would like to add:
People’s lions are in heat and time is ticking. There is no guarantee when they will complete the quest so everyone is unsure of when they can breed their lions. And with the fact that there’s still a third quest to go, it can be a stressor of when you can breed them. Do you need to waste even more sb for in heat ncls? Do you need to wait even longer for your energy to refill enough times to get 20 ncls? Do you need to spend even more money to buy catnip to encourage the ncls? Or will your lions luckily be in heat by then?

Update:
Someone said that if it took a week to complete day 2 then they’d understand why people would call for it to be upped. Some people have been going at day 2 for 9 days and are only just half way. People who have absolutely no commitments and can use up every single full bar have been going at it for 9 days. I feel like there’s a difference between being patient now and it just,, being incredibly slow.

I do agree with person in the thread with the RNG in general needing to be fixed - I also share that thought that maybe it’s a little fucked. Because I don’t understand how I can finish day 2 on my side just shy of 6 days but some people are taking 9 just to get half way through. I ended up buying my way through day 2 after five days on my main and ended up using around 90 full bars in total (boosts and naturally waiting) which is far over what the supposed average of 55 is.

I also feel like turning off the events messed with the RNG of the jaglion encounters. Because I managed to blast through the remaining 35 encounters I had on my side in 3 days. Staff said that turning it off didn’t hide the jaglion encounters. It clearly didn’t hide them all but it clearly messed with getting them. I and when I asked around on discord servers all the people who responded encountered similar results. Getting more encounters with the event turned on vs off. Whether that was tested or not I don’t know. But if it was I don’t understand how they could have missed it? Unless it messed up after launch?



This suggestion has 76 supports and 73 NO supports.



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Edited on 10/07/24 @ 10:22:56 by Sunshine|G2 Incense|🍉 (#420425)

Aspen (#291733)

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2024-07-04 13:13:42
Im finding more encounters in dry savannah than I have anywhere else. Got nothing all day until I switched to dry savannah, first encounter I got was a track



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Tea (#476635)

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2024-07-07 20:06:11
as a fairly new player (this is my third month playing lioden), the thing i have partial issue with is the starting adventure text saying "go into this with some lionesses in heat" so i was excited because a bunch of my lionesses were entering heat but... in the time it's going to take me to finish the quest they'll all be on cooldown? at the very least i wish they'd reword that.

437 steps taken, 2 encounters, i started the quest 3 days ago and usually do a full 100% explore with bone marrow about 3-4~ times a day. i unfortunately cant afford meat pies, so i'm just trying my best with what i've got and i'm a little disheartened ):

edit:

some one said they got a lot of encounters in the savannah so ig i'll try there. i just have a problem with how few encounters i'm stumbling across, i have gone whole days without a single encounter



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Edited on 07/07/24 @ 20:09:46 by Tea (#476635)

Crimson| Jellyfish (#142304)

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2024-07-08 08:36:49
I just finished the second step with explore. I don't entirely believe the encounters themselves need to be boosted, and this may sound a bit conspiracy theory like so please take this with a grain of salt!

I've been playing for a good amount of time at this point and I have a suspicion that explore encounters either break, or the rng for them does. Of course there's no way to tell just through not getting the encounters, as it could always be bad luck, but I've always noticed times where I'll get some encounter weirdly often in one bar. Maybe it's a mechanic? But I feel that's the reason some people had an easier time with the quest. I'll roll 5 lion skulls nearly in a row or in one bar and such, I'm sure some people had that happen with the jaglion quest encounters. And I think it happens the opposite way as well, where you don't get an encounter for an unusually long amount of time even though it's not that rare. Again, could entirely be luck, and I'm certainly no game dev. I've just seen a wide difference with the ease people are completing this quest and I've always wondered if explore prioritizes the same encounters intentionally or not, for a few years now.

This quest shouldn't be easy to complete, my "issue" is the difference in which people are able to complete it. A lot of that comes down to having boosts and energy items saved up but others had that and were still sol for a bit.

Please note I'm not trying to start anything by this, the devs are working super hard and I feel some people def need to be more patient. Instant gratification is expected nowadays and by no means should this not be a grind. I just think there's some balancing issue somewhere in there. Theoretically speaking everyone should have a similar experience with this quest I feel!



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Edited on 08/07/24 @ 10:15:26 by Crimson| G7 Celestial Tobi (#142304)

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2024-07-09 07:58:02
Someone earlier said that if it took a week to complete day 2 then they’d understand why people would call for it to be upped. Some people have been going at day 2 for 9 days and are only just half way. People who have absolutely no commitments and can use up every single full bar have been going at it for 9 days. I feel like there’s a difference between being patient now and it just,, being incredibly slow.

I do agree with the person above me with the RNG in general needing to be fixed - I also share that thought that maybe it’s a little fucked. Because I don’t understand how I can finish day 2 on my side just shy of 6 days but some people are taking 9 just to get half way through. I ended up buying my way through day 2 after five days on my main and ended up using around 90 full bars in total (boosts and naturally waiting) which is far over what the supposed average of 55 is.

I also feel like turning off the events messed with the RNG of the jaglion encounters. Because I managed to blast through the remaining 35 encounters I had on my side in 3 days. Staff said that turning it off didn’t hide the jaglion encounters. It clearly didn’t hide them all but it clearly messed with getting them. I and when I asked around on discord servers all the people who responded encountered similar results. Getting more encounters with the event turned on vs off. Whether that was tested or not I don’t know. But if it was I don’t understand how they could have missed it? Unless it messed up after launch?



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Edited on 09/07/24 @ 08:03:36 by Sunshine|G2 Incense|🍉 (#420425)

Gee (#196201)

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2024-07-21 12:53:34
I'm gonna be honest, it took me a few days but there's legitimately no rush because once you've paid, you can take as long as you'd like. Those who CRB'd lions day of, that's their problem. I waited to get NCLs AFTER I finished the quest.

I barely paid for anything I didn't already have. A few roasted lambs went a long way, using the Gorilla enclave for extra energy, using Hyena butters to make less NCL encounters, bone marrows each day, getting a specific personality for your king which ups energy. I probably bought one energy boost when I only had 2 encounters left and the day was almost over. I also have a full time job, so I'm not constantly on.

If this was a timed event which you had to finish in a specific period, I would understand, but its not. I can't see why it's such a bad thing, other than the boost only being a small percentage, but even then this is a brand new hybrid, they don't want them everywhere.



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2024-07-21 13:00:04
I didn't use any boosts, and I think it took me about 5 days to do day 2? And compared to the Demiurge adventure, this adventure is suprisingly imo- it just takes a little patience. Since hybrids aren't supposed to be an easy to obtain mut in the first place, I don't support making them even easier to get.



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elfhgec (#289576)

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2024-07-21 13:03:33
Hello, I've been exploring for hours and days for the Jaglions( Invasion of spots). I can't believe the encounters and tasks are DECREASING by the time. I have been trying to finish day two for about THREE WEEKS! I still have no chance of finishing in time :( I really believe this problem should be looked into more.

No hate, Hoping everyone luck on the Quest

WHAT CAN I DO?!?



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Edited on 21/07/24 @ 13:06:11 by elfhgec (#289576)

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2024-07-21 13:07:49
The quest has no time limit as long as you TAKE the quest before August 1.



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[♰] Yharnam (#112370)

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2024-07-21 16:22:03
For the record, It's taken me about 3 days to get through over half of the encounters on both accounts.

With no energy boosts used.

I do not believe the rate needs increasing. I believe users need to be patient.

Use hyena butter, turn off event encounters and if you've reached desert biome, explore there. It has a lower amount of total possible encounters. Nothing needs fixing, IMO.



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Marwey (#259580)

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2024-07-22 15:25:18
I feel like most people miss the point where it's just so unfair, i honestly dont care how long it takes, for me its mostly how rare it is to find tracks and all looking at the fact that you can work a lot and you still wont get a jag.
I finished day 2 in a week, now as im using the jag boosts, i might not even get a jag that i so want, the thing is going for 1000 gb and not gonna lie, i was hyped .


(Call me money/beetle hungry but 1000 gb would send my poor lioden life into space)



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[♰] Yharnam (#112370)

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2024-07-22 17:03:22
I don't consider it unfair.
I could use that money also, but I recognize that it's a *pretty big boost* (1 in 150 chance is HUGE) for some time and effort and a minimum of 2000 SB.

2000 SB, time and some items for something that has the potential to sell for 600+ GB...

If users aren't willing to be patient and put the time and effort in, may as well just ask to be handed the boost for free with no effort. They aren't asking us to do much at all.

You're just getting bad RNG. It's not unfair. I'm a chronic bad RNG haver myself. I get it. But it's clearly fine or this many wouldn't exist this soon.



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2024-07-22 17:24:38
@Marwey (#259580)
The staff are being generous with the 20 guaranteed Jag boosts. They could've made it like the Gon boost and had it be a very rare explore encounter that was only available for 1 month and only a 1/150 chance when you do finally find it. Folks spent a lot more GB on energy boosts then than they have to with the Jag quest now.



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[♰] Yharnam (#112370)

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2024-07-22 18:01:15
I never actually even saw the gon boost because of that. Agreed 100% on the generosity



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elfhgec (#289576)

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2024-07-22 20:53:36
[♰] Yharnam (#112370)

In 3 days with NO energy boosts is quite impressive!

Must say the offers, info, and quest is good compared of what Lioden could have gave to players.
I SEE NOW that patience is really something you must take in part if you WANT to finish his quest.

I didn't have no clue of the tools needed to finish this quest, Thank you for the response, definitely will take that in hand.





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[♰] Yharnam (#112370)

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2024-07-22 21:38:12
Yeah. I found a couple the first two days but i wasnt really exploring much. then this weekend i sat down in the desert biome to explore a bunch and get ncls for the portal since i had free time set aside.

and well


it's just a matter of using the tools available at your disposal.

this is what i did:
- turn off event encounters
- use catnip to get a bunch of ncls
- in 1 hour use hyena butter
- go explore and run down your energy
- give the ncls to the portal
- each time you get 60-90 energy, go explore
- rinse and repeat until out of ncls and energy.

i recommend the desert biome bc it doesnt have many encounters so youre more likely to get the jag quest encounters there. but obv u need to have it unlocked. otherwise, i think one of the first two biomes has low encounters.

it really, really just comes down to being patient and preparing. i used no energy boosts. i only used the portal stuff + daily boost - all of which are 100% free.



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