Posted by -LOCKED - ETI prize adjustment

SmallWaterNuts (#462203)


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2024-12-14 08:59:51
Now, i don't know how many third, second or first gets {if anyone who had this ranking wants to spill?}, but i've had someone who got fifth confirm that they only got 1 Glam Garnet as prize, so no matter if you get fifth or 300th, you'll get 1 glam garnet, and that's a little crazy, isn't it?

Update 16/12:
A few hours ago people were talking, and ETI is already being destroyed. People are putting in 0 effort, just tossing in the non-decorated, basic wardrobe lion (or their king) and calling it a day
Look at rebirth for example, first place is a background with nothing on it!

And some users have noticed that some voters are voting 1 star on every submission on purpose to get their own higher, but that's for another thread.

Maybe it should be a bit more like, considering ETI seems to be decently popular and avarages roughly 300 entries per round:
51+ --> 1 garnet
11-50 --> 2 garnets
4-10 --> 3 garnets
3th --> 4 garnets
2nd --> 6 garnets
1st --> 9 garnets

Alternate prize spread suggested by vertigoat 🦬 | x2ros outlaw [#114297]
bottom 50%: 1 token
top 50%: 2 tokens
top 25%: 3 tokens
top 10%: 5 tokens
places 1-3 would have the highest rewards

Opinions welcome!
Please, please, please if you don't support tell me why, if you don't wanna speak in thread PM me, i want to hear your side, i want to improve this suggestion if possible.



This suggestion has 105 supports and 2 NO supports.



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Edited on 16/12/24 @ 00:15:53 by SmallWaterNuts (#462203)

kenz | g1 dawnnedi (#181066)


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2024-12-14 09:04:11
I received 6 garnets in 2nd place! Idk about 1st or 3rd yet



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Umireef (#42691)

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2024-12-14 09:04:40
absolutely adjust! It's not really fair if you're actively good at the game and always score really high, but you still need to enter hundreds of times to get anything from the shop. I know this is a permanent thing unlike an event, but still it takes roughly an hour to enter + vote. (also it was me, I got 5th and only one glam thingy LOL)



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SmallWaterNuts (#462203)


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2024-12-14 09:06:26
Okay, so six garnets for 2nd place & 3 garnets for 3rd place were confirmed, i'll edit it quickly



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SmallWaterNuts (#462203)


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2024-12-14 10:24:09
Update: PMed a first place winner privately, they confirmed they got 9 garnets, so everything should be acurate now.



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Sutittaja (#128142)

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2024-12-14 10:55:47
Yeah I feel like 4-10 places should get 2-3 crystals at least to balance things out and encourage people who put more effort on designs



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lutheus (#188414)


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2024-12-14 13:07:15
I'm gonna say No Support for now because, like has been mentioned, the game isn't tied to an event and can be played once every hour. I think some grind is okay. They just dropped it today/yesterday, it should take a while to have enough to buy stuff. Tbh I'm grateful we even get 1 garnet as a consolation prize no matter our score, haha



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SmallWaterNuts (#462203)


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2024-12-14 13:18:48
I get what you're saying about the grinding, but if you wanted to buy a green marking app, you'd have to play straight for 150 hours, so roughly an entire week of non-stop play, and that stacks if you want to buy more. That's too much grind, people have lives.

Plus, i'm afraid that once the shiny newness wears off, people will just start doing what some are already doing, putting 0 effort in, just tossing a lion into the wardrobe and calling it quits. Thus destroying the entire spirit of the game, because it won't matter if they get 4th or 400th, they'll get the same prize anyway.



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Edited on 14/12/24 @ 13:19:23 by SmallWaterNuts (#462203)

Umireef (#42691)

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2024-12-14 14:09:14
100%. It's not really a "I want more rewards now" thing. But the spirit of the game is already being lost with people spamming the same designs over and over with no effort just to grind. The rewards should be a little bit more gradual, just a tiny bit more. Just to show people that if you put in a little bit more effort to place on the top 50, top 10, whatever, you can get more rewards.

It's the first day and we're already seeing people just give up the main point of the game just to grind rewards one by one. And it's just going to get worse when people start realizing that their effort doesn't actually matter unless they place top 3 which is almost impossible. Unless mods can find another way to ensure people put some effort into the game, like preventing people from.submitting the same design over and over, I think rewards should encourage people to put effort into the game more.



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Juno 🌈 | G1
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2024-12-15 14:43:54
I got 5th and only got 1 which is just kinda disheartening? Especially for saving up for things like the apps or Mohawk decors…
Like I get the same amount for 300th place as 5th?



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Vinny Claws [G2 RLC
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2024-12-15 14:47:48
Yeah as @Umireef said, the spamming is so real. I was playing the 3rd & 4th contests held ever last night, and there were already multiple people spamming the same designs. It doesn't make sense that those people would get the same prize as someone who won 6th place.



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Myst ♥ (#18259)

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2024-12-15 20:25:26
I'm personally in favor of this! imo the best way to do it would be percentile-based:
Top 50% get 2, top 20% get 3, top 5% get 5, and then top 3 get big bonuses on top.

I think doing percentile-based would be easier and less strict than just "top 50 scores" since ties exist and the player count for the game already fluctuates wildly based on time of day and theme.



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vertigoat 🦬 (#114297)


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2024-12-15 23:42:20
i don't think it should be 50+ users, i think it should be based on percentiles -- comment of mine below is pasted from a very similar thread but it explains my reasoning

i'm definitely in favor of a percentile system, with something like:
bottom 50%: 1 token
top 50%: 2 tokens
top 25%: 3 tokens
top 10%: 5 tokens
then obviously places 1-3 would have the highest rewards, i'm honestly not sure what the current rate is since i've never placed 1-3 but considering how rare it is out of 150-400 entries... maybe like 10, 15, and 20? these are also just random numbers i thought kind of made sense, admins could implement it with different numbers and i'd still be happy it rewards more fairly.

prices could be tweaked to be slightly more expensive to match the increased prize value, but the rewards system definitely needs adjusting in my opinion. feels bad getting 14th place followed by 250th place and having the exact same prize like you said, it just makes people not want to put effort into submissions.

the actual dress to impress game is on a much smaller scale (13 max i think?), but lioden has game sizes of 150-400 every hour so it just doesn't work as well to reward only the top 3 players.



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Edited on 16/12/24 @ 00:10:24 by vertigoat 🦭 | 15BO vagabond (#120333)

SmallWaterNuts (#462203)


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2024-12-16 00:16:59
@Vertigoat
Added & credited you for your suggestion. Thank you :D



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Kitty (#2)

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2024-12-16 07:16:07
Hello! I am going to lock this thread now, and ask that you direct your suggestions into this new megathread I have posted.



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