Posted by Hunting - More Control by Tile

Axel (#6627)

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Posted on
2014-08-02 21:36:45
Hi there, guys.

This idea was inspired by my misunderstanding of how the hunting works since the new system was implemented. I thought it works like this, but truth is that hunting is still mostly as random as it can be. There is no tactic involved. As long as you place 5 lionesses on random tiles, they will catch any animal on those tiles without giving us a chance to have more control over what we want our lionesses to hunt.

Problem:
Hunting is still random, this way we still don't have as much control as we should have over hunting, there is no chance to build up our own strategy, this also makes it harder to complete hunting quests.

Solution:

Make tile types and the number of lionesses positioned upon them more connected



How this would look like:
You know how the prey guide tells us how many lionesses are needed to catch it?
This requirement should be made stricter, by asking that these lionesses should be on the same type of tile.

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Example:
Number 1: We want to catch a buffalo.

(Currently, it is enough that just one lioness of the five is positioned upon one of the required tiles)

With this new setting, we would need to position at least 4 lionesses on the same type. In our case, for example the Waterhole.

Number 2: We want to catch a Zebra and a Gemsbok.

With this new setting, you will have a much greater chance to bring them back (since you cannot bring back large carcasses that require 4-5 hunters) by placing 2 lionesses on -for example- Marshlands, and three on the Desert.

Number 3: We want to catch a Buffalo again.

With this new setting, it would strictly be required to place the lionesses on the same type. Of course, Buffalo can be also hunted in Waterhole and the Marshlands, but you cannot hope for a Buffalo if you place four lionesses mixed on these two type of tiles. You need to place them either in the Waterhole or the Marshlands.
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But the hunting grounds are random... We will not get 5 of all type of tiles, but sometimes only one. We will not be able to get prey from those tiles!

Every day will be a new challenge. Indeed sometimes you will not get the required number of tiles on a day for one type, but you will have plenty of others to choose from. I think this is a small sacrifice in exchange to the ability to have more control over hunting.

Does this mean that the lionesses can now bring back more than two carcasses?

No. All other settings still would apply. You cannot get more than two carcasses from a single hunt, and if the lionesses bring back a large carcass (Eg.: Buffalo) they will not bring back another. Just like now.

Okay... So... How does hunting work right now?
Currently, you can place your lionesses anywhere, if you want you can place them on completely different type of tiles and you will be able to catch any prey that is at home on those tiles. Meaning large prey too.

Eg.: To catch a buffalo you just need to make sure that you have at least a single lioness on Waterhole/Marshland and you can place the rest anywhere else. Which means, that you will catch random prey from those tiles, unable to go for specific prey according to lioness placements.

So you want to catch a giraffe calf and a Hartebbest? You probably will place 2 girls on grassy and 3 on drylake, hoping to catch those, since they require 1-2, and 2-3 girls. Right? Well, guess what! You gonna catch a Hirola or a Wildebeest! Both requiring 4-5 girls because it doesnt matter how many you place on either type of tiles! All that matters is how many girls you send hunting!



This suggestion has 454 supports and 10 NO supports.



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Edited on 14/12/15 @ 14:45:01 by Axel (#6627)

Drongo (#35082)

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Posted on
2014-08-03 00:16:38
Huh. I thought it already was like this.

I've been placing all my lionesses on the same kind of tile since I thought it gave a higher chance of catching the "bigger" food available on that kind of tile.

/supported



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Axel (#6627)

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2014-08-03 01:00:55
Yes, the way it was described was indeed easily misunderstood. I am sure that 99% of Lioden thinks it works this way, but it does not.

I have written to the bug board when I found it strange how I could catch a Buffalo if only a few lionesses were placed upon marshlands. This was when Xylax explained to me that it is not working this way.



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Jynn (#27606)

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Posted on
2014-08-03 01:06:52
Definitely agree!



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Edited on 03/08/14 by Jynn (#27606)

20firebird (#12588)

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Posted on
2014-08-03 11:50:07
Huh. I thought they already had to be on the same tile, but I guess not.



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Impy (#37375)

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Posted on
2014-08-05 11:36:50
I also thought this was already how it worked. I've been playing this way the whole time so far. Support.



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KilljoyLights (#37350)


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2014-09-12 03:58:10
Huh, I was unaware that the hunting wasn't like this before. I've been on a rampage with placing my lionesses on the same tile type since I thought that had greater chances of getting something. I am definitely supporting this~



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Icy (#2810)

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2014-09-12 04:03:09
I've never really noticed, to be honest. If I wanted to catch a buffalo, i'd put all my ladies on waterhole, and i'd usually end up getting one. I had no idea it was random, as long as one lioness was on the required tile. 0_0

So.. Support. Because i've apparently been duped this whole time. x3



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Sunfire (#26490)

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Posted on
2014-10-05 06:21:18
Support!

I think it would be cool if stats came into play with hunting as well. I don't know if they are thinking of doing something like this already. I hope so; it would make the game feel more realistic, like lions with high speed/agility stats would have more chance at catching a gazelle than lions with low speed/agility stats and high strength stats.



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atheistcanuck (#45490)

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Posted on
2014-10-05 07:29:21
I thought it already worked like that. Support.



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Rin ~ LPC (#21176)

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Posted on
2014-10-05 07:37:57
Like everyone else, I thought that's how it worked. It would make hunting a little more challenging if it rally worked like we thought it did.



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S h i f t (#18066)

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2014-11-29 22:16:18
What the?? That's how I thought it worked the whole time, but it DOESN'T? :O
It all makes sense now..



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Clay 🐓 (#20064)

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2014-12-11 13:22:40
This is the way it currently works.

I'm on a quest to catch a Hartebeest right now. I look in the Hunting Prey List and see that the Hartebeest can be found in Drylake and Plains, and requires at least 2-3 lionesses to catch it.
I counted how many species were in each zone - Drylake has less. So I choose Drylake as the place where I will hunt this Hartebeest.
The Hartebeest requires 2-3 lionesses to be caught, so I check for any "cross overs" in hunting numbers. For example:
Let's say the Gazelle is in Drylake and takes 1-2 lionesses to kill
Hartebeest takes 2-3 lionesses to kill
Buffalo takes 3-4 lionesses to kill
I will see which species require "2" lionesses in it, and then see which species require "3" lionesses to be caught (this is a little hard to explain, sorry)
If there are more animals in the 2-3 group to be caught verses the 1-2 group, I will go with the 1-2 group because there's less "competition" on those tiles, and the Hartebeest can be caught there.
I will place two lionesses in Drylake and go hunting.



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Axel (#6627)

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2014-12-13 23:00:57
@Clay:
I am afraid I am not sure what you are attempting to explain. You only need to place a single lioness at Drylake and the rest anywhere else to catch a Hartebeest, and a single lioness in Waterhole to catch a buffalo. Just because you attempt to place exactly 2-3 lionesses onto a type of tile to catch a specific prey will not change your chances. Not at all. You will catch any prey as long as you place all 5 lionesses anywhere.



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Africa (#53124)

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2015-01-17 06:19:25
Supported. I thought it was already that way. I thought you had to have 2-3 lionesses on certain tiles to catch certain prey.

I had no idea it was different!



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Manah (#54002)

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2015-02-13 03:14:24
I too thought it worked that way. I guess that explains why it's so painfully difficult to get a "common" carcass I need for my quests! I support this.



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