Posted by Removing of purchasing id
Lord of Celestial (#89)

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2016-02-05 11:56:54
I would like to have the option of removing Auction ID cause of three reasons, one being scammers, two liability, third making it hard to make notes about players

Ok scammers can make themsself look like older players and make it sound like this "I am not scamming you see by the id i got this far without scamming", facing the fact the new players are unaware that you can buy old ID. Scammers are aware of this fact (im a moderator for a diff game, so i see this happen). Yes people can get banned but they always have a back-up account and they can use it to buy another account number with the scam GB.

Two, for the fact the new players see old players as knowledgeable players of the game, so if they see no helper or mod around they usally see if an older player is on and message them ( which happens every so often to me). And it shows that we been with the game since the beginning

Next, Players like me make mental notes on why we blocked players, from bad transactions to how they treat others. This will make it hard for players to keep up on with why we blocked them. Or sometimes its hard to remember good trade buddies if they keep changing their number.

I don't see whats a benefit of doing this other than making the amount of gb in the game less, but it really is not worth all the stress of players lossing track of notes.

Please post below on why you don't support it, or offer suggestions on how you like the problem to be fixed.

Thanks for reading
-Lord of Celestial (#89)

This Post Below Was Made To Keep Auction ID ,but make some twinks to it
http://www.lioden.com/topic.php?id=304429221177



This suggestion has 38 supports and 50 NO supports.



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Edited on 08/02/16 @ 20:27:09 by Lord of Celestial (#89)

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2016-02-05 11:57:12
Admin edit - due to content not allowed on Lioden: please don't discuss other web-browsing sim games!



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Edited on 06/02/16 @ 07:42:35 by Lord of Celestial (#89)

Ticklicous [1k+ G4
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2016-02-05 12:02:24
I definitely can agree to the point stated, and in my own honest opinion as much as I do love LD, the idea itself otherwise seems a bit pointless and definitely something that in the end could be taken advantage of more than be useful/helpful in any way besides maybe saving a bit of extra server space or perhaps a couple other things.

Really the most I see is just the strong desire to have the lowest account ID possible for whatever reason it may be. I myself an perfectly fine with my account number and definitely won't ever be planning to change it in the future udring any bidding wars for the low number accounts that may become available.



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Edited on 05/02/16 @ 19:02:52 by Ticklicous (#490)

Micah 🌈 (#29140)

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Posted on
2016-02-05 12:04:48
While it used up lots of GB, I really don't see the point or selling the ID's.. And now there's this post that i agree with.
Why not just take the accounts items and lions to sell those in a mass auction? I bet more people might be interested? I know I'd rather have some old, no longer released items, or whatever may be on the account.

Either way i support. :x



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Lord of Celestial (#89)

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2016-02-05 12:05:38
ty for posting, i see the point of going for the lowest number , but i see that most people will do this with greed and take advantage over this



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2016-02-05 12:07:05
Mass auction of items sounds like a better way of using gb than buyying a lower id number, and ty for your statement :)



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Ticklicous [1k+ G4
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2016-02-05 12:07:35
Sadly I am sure at least 60% (if not more) of the people currently bidding are doing so out of some greedy reason. While some may hate to doubt others, I have no regrets in doing so. Not only is this humans we are talking about here, but online players too. When it comes to people in general, I tend to notice a HEAVY portion tend to host boundless amounts of greed.



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Sisi (#23003)

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Posted on
2016-02-05 12:12:52
I don't see it as a way to be greedy.

I know for a fact that the current person with the highest bid is none of the sort. They are probably one of the most kind and generous players around the site. You shouldn't condemn many for a few.



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Fart (#25392)

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Posted on
2016-02-05 12:12:57
Auctioning off a banned user's items serves no unique benefit. Auctioning off their ID number does.



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ambers. 🍊 (#15417)

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2016-02-05 12:13:19
I really don't get this.

1) Most of the people buying the ID #'s aren't scammers? and what's the chance of you getting scammed here anyway? The staff handle that stuff very, VERY seriously so there's really no problem here.

Yes people can get banned but they always have a back-up account and they can use it to buy another account number with the scam GB.

-When people are banned from this site they are usually IP banned.
-Most if not all fake GB is removed from the game.

"I am not scamming you see by the id i got this far without scamming"
This literally makes no sense. Account age has nothing to do with in game achievements. Anyone with common sense could figure that out.


2) Okay, this is bad how? I usually get pms like but I either ignore it or just link them a place to where they can have their questions answered. Again, where is the problem?

3) You can check to see who purchased the name by tracking the auction, keeping note on their current and new ID's, or just ask a mod to see if x person is x person.

I just don't see how any of these are an actual reason why the auction should be removed. :/



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Slothie (#63435)

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2016-02-05 12:14:02
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Nym (#191)

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Posted on
2016-02-05 12:16:37
No support.

The likelihood that someone is going to spend 300+ GB on an account just to 'more easily scam others,' and risk losing their recently purchased account due to being banned, is honestly incredibly low. A low account ID honestly won't keep people from figuring out that someone is a scammer.

Buying an account with a low ID is done for the vanity, and with the amount of money that they cost, will likely be purchased by players who are already dedicated to the game. If they received messages asking for help or tips, chances are they'd be able to efficiently answer.



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Lord of Celestial (#89)

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2016-02-05 12:19:18
I didn't say the on bidding right now is a scammer, but it can happen. So far i do not see any good reason for auction ID.

I know that the staff doe handle it very seriously , heck im friends with a few of them, admins and mods don't always catch every scammer and once a game hits a lot of players there can be a accidental miss on catching a player. Also Ilp can be block but their are places like library and fast food that can open up more ilp :/



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Scyllarus (#26842)

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2016-02-05 12:21:24
The only point I agree with is the third one. I don't bother blocking people (I generally have a pretty thick skin and honestly, if someone is harassing me I want the staff to see it. I would prefer that they get banned so they can never bother anyone else on the site again.) but I do keep a list of people I don't work with because of various reasons. Since you can change your name freely I depend on ID numbers, which...isn't really feasible anymore.

I'd personally like to see a notice on the person's den (either permanently or for X weeks) that their original number was whatever. Kind of like on DA, where if you do a name change they have the "formerly "blah blah"" thing.

edit: I'm assuming that people's blocklists are going to be updated with new IDs :/



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Edited on 05/02/16 @ 19:24:15 by Scyllarus (#26842)

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2016-02-05 12:22:10
I will post some of your statements Slothie (#63435) :)

also yes cause its new , usally after a while it will start dropping in price (Newest thing out is always a great way for games to earn oney) after a while bids will go low



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♓ayley (#56998)

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2016-02-05 12:22:26
"-When people are banned from this site they are usually IP banned.
-Most if not all fake GB is removed from the game."

I agree, The admins, Mods and helpers on the site are on top of any scammer issues. I see no issue with people who want the id number and are willing to pay for literally a number associated with their name? And usually people who have bid are well-know/very active on the site already. So all this is is people paying for a number, and a good way for the admins to sink GB to help fund and support the site and to keep lioden running as it does.

And you also have to think, this is a site wide public auction that was announced in the news. I'm sure it's being watched closely. The odds are that if someone were to be fishy with the ways the get GB, I am sure it would be found out before anything bad happened.



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