Posted by Poses and Purchase

Axel (#6627)

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2016-08-01 20:40:17
Since I am always coming up with ideas that might be shot down quickly, I decided to dare these dangerous waters.

The idea originally came from Lion Tamer (#10702). But since they did not post it, I might as well.

As we all know, the new lioness personality poses came out. Now, they cost 1GB each (which is quite a fair price, though, that isnt the point of this idea). Some of us were led to believe, that they will be an automatic update after the new lioness claiming system was released. Or at least it will be the same as the cub stages feature.

This kind of led to a couple of disappointed people. So why not come to a compromise?

Now, I propose another purchasing opion.

(ATTENTION!: This is another -additional- option! Not replacing the current method! Current method stays as it is!!!)

Why not sell it the same way as the Cub Stages feature as well?

The price of the application would be much higher, of course. Maybe somewhere between 20-50GB. Once bought, the personality poses would be applied to the lionesses in the pride, the same way how the extra cub stages feature works.

In addition, Pose applicators could stay in the Oasis the same way as now, since maybe some people want a different pose for their lionesses or dont want to pay the higher price.

Maybe add a limit on how many lionesses it could affect? Just to make sure the income keeps coming.

So, what do you think?



This suggestion has 124 supports and 59 NO supports.



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Edited on 06/08/16 @ 09:29:52 by Axel (#6627)

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2016-08-02 00:20:48
To be honest, I think that if they do come out with a different way of distributing poses... it shouldn't be this. I personally would rather have poses per lion, rather than enabled per account.

Meaning, if you buy a posed lion, that posed lion keeps its pose.

Now, does this mean I support having to pay for every individual 1-use pose applicator? No. I believe there should be some other way of selling/distributing them, but... not really like this.

Honestly, I think pose applicators should, at least, have more than 1 use, and/or should be reusable if a lioness dies or retires.

Possibly, some poses could even be inherited, like markings, but it'd be rare. Idk, really. But there'd be better ways to do it than cub stages. I'd rather not pay 15+ GB to even be able to have a single posed lion on my account at all, even if I were to buy a posed lion.



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Axel (#6627)

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2016-08-02 00:41:04
Well, you would not be forced to buy this feature.

You could choose to still keep buying a applicator for 1 lion at a time, while those who do want all their pride to have the poses could have this purchase. Some people can and do wish to pay 15+GB for something like this.



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Tosca [Clean
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2016-08-02 01:59:34
Oh, I missed the part where you said the current applicators would stay. Oop.



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Axel (#6627)

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2016-08-02 02:08:38
That is alright.
Yes, the applicators would stay in the Oasis as they are now.



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Berenos|On hiatus (#84593)

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2016-08-02 02:21:33
I'd like for them to be toggable, like the nursing cubs image, because I tought it would be an automathic update that'd make all lionesses have poses or, at the very least, that they'd show on wild lionesses when claiming. My own fault for assuming it after trying the new claiming sistem, I suppose. Maybe they could be, as you say, purchased as a whole per account, but with the option of on/off within the account details, like the nursing cubs image? And then the option to purchase standalone poses.



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Axel (#6627)

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2016-08-02 02:33:58
That could also work. There might be some people who would want some girls to be seen in the default pose despite having bought the bundle.
But then again...... There is an existing SB feature to remove poses. So that one could work for this one too.



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Tau (#31025)

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2016-08-02 04:30:04
So, the idea is....If you buy the "Personality Update" that all lionesses in your pride will have their "default" pose matched to their personality? Evil will have the Evil Pose, Neutral will have the Neutral one, etc. while still leaving the pose applicators in the Oasis so you can change a lioness to a completely different pose if you want?

It's not a bad idea. I'd personally say maybe 25-30 GB (roughly twice what the cubs is since it stays longer) would be pretty fair. I'm sure people would enjoy it and probably be just as likely to buy poses for their favorite girls as they are not.



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Panda (#66351)

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2016-08-02 04:40:48
For me, I feel as though this item would be a cheaper way around getting the applicators. If you have a pride of fifty lionesses (which some people do) and you want poses for all of them you could just buy this item and save on money. Even if the item was 30GB, and you have fifty lionesses, you would be saving 20GB and or more instead of buying the applicators one by one. That's 10$ worth, and 10$ that might not be going into the site.

Plus, Xylax said that poses were going to be this way. And yet we the players of Lioden, still voted to have them come out and applicable. Xylax had said this multiple times in main chat and many of his streams.



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🐾Bloodpaw 🐾 (#3566)

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2016-08-02 04:57:45
Personally I feel the poses are good as they are. For me it's like a decor and I only put decors on lionesses that's dear to me.

I also think it is a tad strange that the poses aren't automatic and free based on the fact that it's supposed to match the lioness' personality. Wasn't that the reason personalities was introduced and the poses was made? To make lionesses more personal? If it were automatic then people would still buy poses from the Oasis to change the lioness' pose or buy pose removers if they didn't want some lionesses to have pose at all.
Problem with automatic poses would be that some people might not want poses at all, but it could be solved by adding "disable" button.

Either way, I'm satisfied with the way it is now. Just wanted to comment my thoughts on the subject. I do understand the ones who want to keep the poses as they are and I also understand why others are unsatisfied with it.



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Axel (#6627)

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2016-08-02 04:59:31
@Sahel:
Yep, that would be the idea.

@Gnarlandis:
Sadly, many people werent there on those streams to see or hear him mention that, and some of us have their chats disabled, so in no way could we see that either, not to mention he probably wasnt saying it every minute, so it is no guarantee that everyone saw it in the chat. Pretty much, some people were led to believe -when the new claiming system was tested- that the poses will not be the way applied as the Jolly Pose.

Also, about the large pride problem, this is why I added an extra thought there, that maybe there would be a limit on how many lionesses can have the pose in a pride at a time. Say... 10 lionesses? The rest would be unaffected.



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Edited on 02/08/16 @ 12:01:58 by Axel (#6627)

Panda (#66351)

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2016-08-02 05:02:18
If there is a limit, then I'll support this. Fifteen lion seems appropriate even.



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2016-08-02 05:03:52
no support. I think the poses are fine as they are and to be honest... they are really cheap for the beautiful art work that they boast



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Axel (#6627)

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2016-08-02 05:03:53
I did mention the limit in my first post before.
I myself had been thinking about large prides abusing this feature. I dont want to rob Lioden of its income. Larger prides obviously would have to either buy additional pose applicators or they buy this feature multiple times perhaps?

@Tiger Lilly:
It isnt the price I am bothered with but the way it was implemented. Paying 30 or so GB isnt much cheaper than paying the 1GB for one lioness.



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Edited on 02/08/16 @ 12:05:20 by Axel (#6627)

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2016-08-05 10:55:46
No support. I like the poses the way they are and sadly, the way the jolly pose is, even without hearing xylax say how the poses would be, I could tell/infer that they would be very similar to how the jolly pose is, a 1time use item.

Also, just my opinion, if the poses were a one time purchase, it would only make sense to have lionesses in the pose based on their personality, and honestly I think a lot more people would complain that they wouldn't get to choose, or would have to spend 1gb for a personality changer.

I think the way the admins implemented it is better. You get to choose which poses you want for which girl despite their real personality. I could see a lot more potential problems for having it be a one time purchase like fun stages.

I get people were disappointed and I hate to say it, but you cannot completely assume one way or another. For those who didn't see what Xy said, he also never once said it would be like the cub stages either (as far as I know.) with such a lack of hearing one way or another, the users can't blame anyone for getting their hopes up. Sorry, but that's the way it is.



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Axel (#6627)

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2016-08-05 21:50:08
@Kat:
There are some people who would like this kind of purchase, though. They would not be bothered how all lionesses would have similar poses.

If you want to keep purchasing with 1 pose/applicator then, you could still do that.
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On another note... do people not read this suggestion properly?
It seems like everyone thinks the 1 pose/purchase would be gone if this was implemented.
But no, the regular purchase would still be available.

I get it that not EVERYONE would want to make the purchase with this but deciding to not support it because YOU dont want to purchase this way is a bit inconsiderate towards those who would want it.



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