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Axel (#6627)

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2016-08-01 20:40:17
Since I am always coming up with ideas that might be shot down quickly, I decided to dare these dangerous waters.

The idea originally came from Lion Tamer (#10702). But since they did not post it, I might as well.

As we all know, the new lioness personality poses came out. Now, they cost 1GB each (which is quite a fair price, though, that isnt the point of this idea). Some of us were led to believe, that they will be an automatic update after the new lioness claiming system was released. Or at least it will be the same as the cub stages feature.

This kind of led to a couple of disappointed people. So why not come to a compromise?

Now, I propose another purchasing opion.

(ATTENTION!: This is another -additional- option! Not replacing the current method! Current method stays as it is!!!)

Why not sell it the same way as the Cub Stages feature as well?

The price of the application would be much higher, of course. Maybe somewhere between 20-50GB. Once bought, the personality poses would be applied to the lionesses in the pride, the same way how the extra cub stages feature works.

In addition, Pose applicators could stay in the Oasis the same way as now, since maybe some people want a different pose for their lionesses or dont want to pay the higher price.

Maybe add a limit on how many lionesses it could affect? Just to make sure the income keeps coming.

So, what do you think?



This suggestion has 124 supports and 59 NO supports.



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Edited on 06/08/16 @ 09:29:52 by Axel (#6627)

Tau (#31025)

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2016-08-05 21:55:54
Honestly, I could see have a "Default Personality Bundle" or something as a money-maker for the site. Plenty of people who aren't bothering to buy individual ones would probably be fine buying one for 25-30 GB in the Oasis (that they would probably not otherwise spend on the Poses as they are now) so their pride could "default" to the "proper" Pose for the personality.

And for their favorites/ones they like looking differently, they would probably spend additional GB to change them from their "default personality pose" to the one they prefer.

Honestly, a GB bundle for your pride (maybe one you can click off and on if you like some of your lionesses in the current laying down pose?) and having the current ones in the Oasis is basically offering two ways to make money for one "set" of (very nice) art.




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Edited on 06/08/16 @ 04:56:28 by Baobab (#31025)

Kenzii[G3 Clean
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2016-08-06 00:20:21
Axel I know full well you could have both and I understand full well what this suggestion means. But I still see potential problems with possible coding bugs and whatnot. And no, I still don't think they should add the stage feature. People are always going to gripe and moan about something because it didn't happen the way they wanted it too. Again, Xylax never confirmed or once said the poses would be like stages. It sucks but you gotta learn to deal with this kind of stuff sometimes. Such as the people who go on hiatus and come back to updates they don't like, or people who like me work all the time and cannot always know everything xylax says or doesn't say. The one time for 1gb is not terrible. and honestly, if they did add the stage version, I'm sure they would make it so the pose is based on personality. People would gripe about that too. This really isn't needed. 1gb like I said is not bad. stages would be like 20gb or so but that's not including the 1gb for a personality changer in case you have a girl that just doesn't look good with that pose or something. Not only that but you wanted to add a limit, whereas you could buy as many poses as you like for the 1gb option....so I don't think a lot of people would like that. I'm not saying people shouldn't be happy and have something that is convenient for them, I just see some possible coding issues and whatnot that could be easily avoided. It's also partly because, and I don't care if I get flack for this but, the user base/community gets a lot of things and a lot of people always want more. Something happens they don't like? They whine and moan until they get their way or try too. They want handouts left and right because everything needs to be easy or they just want it but wont put the work into it that's desired and then get mad because it's too hard and unachieveable. I'm not saying everyone's like this, but people need to learn they can't have everything.

If people really want a pose or two, come to me. I have gb and I love helping people out. But if users really want a lot of lions to have poses...I just think users need to learn how to actually work for their own stuff. Hunt as much as you can and sell the food. Only have as many lions as you can handle. Sell anything you don't need. There are many ways to get one gb. I've done it before and I know others do too. But yes. Want a pose and cannot afford to get one? Pm me, and I will help.



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Axel (#6627)

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2016-08-06 02:17:23
I am more than certain I did not ask for a handout ._.

Let us leave the coding to the decisions of the developers as well. Only they know if it can cause problems or not.



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Pasha (#5512)

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2016-08-06 02:20:53
Support. Yes, it's annoying that people are not reading this carefully. I would really like this as an additional option – then if you didn't like how some of your lionesses turned out, you could either apply a pose applicator for 1 GB to change it, or alternately it should be free to toggle between the altered pose and the original, default pose... I'm not sure if the latter is feasible to the site admins in terms of getting people to buy GB, but the two options are not mutually exclusive.

Axel, maybe you could revise your original post? Emphasize at the beginning that this would be an ADDITIONAL OPTION?



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Axel (#6627)

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2016-08-06 02:27:36
@Pasha:
Yeah,. maybe I should. There were a lot of people who thought I wanted to do away with the current purchase option.

As for toggling, I would say no. You can buy a pose removed from the Monkey Business to remove the pose from the lion.



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Kenzii[G3 Clean
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2016-08-06 02:32:02
Axel im not saying you yourself are asking for a handout. I'm just saying that there are users that are. And no, I can think about whether bugs and coding problems may be a potential thing because it will affect us. One way or another. I have every right to point out possible coding problems even if I'm not 100% sure what they are because while yes, everything coded may have bugs, I just have a few red flags in my head based on how coding is. Yes ultimately it is up to the actual coders to try and figure it out, but imo this was and is something I don't think they should have to try and figure out. Because if I use that logic, the "just leave it up to them", then by extension, everything should just be left to them and we as a community shouldn't suggest anything because only the developers will know if things cause problems or not. Obviously that is not the case. We as users have the right to suggest things as well as say why we do or do not support so if I see or have a red flag, I'm going to bring that up, no matter if it's coding or not.

You also bring up the fact that people were disappointed. Of course there were because there always is. The admins cannot always compromise 100% to please every single user. If they could and did, then I wouldn't be able to deal with or see beetles at all, because hey, I don't like it. But no, I deal with even if I don't like it. I don't think the admins need to compromise on this.



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Axel (#6627)

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2016-08-06 02:36:45
@Kat:
The problem with that is that we are not coders. We cannot see behind the actual coding of the site or the skills of the coders. No matter what you suggest, even the tiniest feature can have potential problems with coding. It is a generic argument to every and each suggestion. This is why I wanted to close it and say to leave this bit to the developers themselves.

You can call this feature a compromise or a suggested additional purchase method. All in all, this would not affect those who dont want it this way negatively.



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Berenos|On hiatus (#84593)

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2016-08-06 02:41:54
I really don't see why having an option of purchasing a "poses bundle" would be negative to the site. Those who don't want to, or can't afford more than a few instead of the bundle, have the 1 GB option. I don't support this idea to get poses for free, don't look for giveaways, but the same there are options of auto-nest and auto-feed, there could be a poses feature that affected all the lions of an account, even if temporary. Perhaps the toggable on and off is wishful thinking on my part, but as Axel said, it is up to the coders of the site to decide what can they or cannot do.



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Kenzii[G3 Clean
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2016-08-06 02:48:21
True, it is a common argument that does pop up, I'm not denying it. But with this I'm just not sure. You still cannot tell people to leave it out of an argument if it really is a concern someone has.

And I know it's supposed to be a compromise, but it's not needed as I've said before. Because like I said, you're not going to please everyone. And this is just one of those things that I think was implemented correctly. I don't think any additions need to be made, except for the decor to work and male poses if possible but we know that wouldn't be for a while.

Would it affect me negatively? No, and I know that, but I don't think this should be added just because a few people assumed wrong and were disappointed when it didn't turn into what they thought it should be. I don't believe anyone was "led to" believe anything and I may be wrong with that but that's only what I saw when I could get on. We saw how the jolly pose was released, we saw the pose remover. Yes we saw the new claiming method where lionesses would be posed based on personality but even then we were made aware they would go to default if claimed. I don't know how people were led to believe anything, but my point was/is. It's fine the way it is. And I don't think this addition needs to be made.



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Tau (#31025)

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2016-08-06 03:00:37
@Axel

I had actually completely forgotten about the Pose Remover in the Monkey Shop. It's new and I didn't even notice it before. With that it mind, no real need for toggles then.



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Meso (#49519)

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2016-08-07 02:28:20
reading the posts above, your answer to removing the bulk unlocked poses feature if you buy it like cub stages is to spend lots of sb to remove the individual poses (money spent of course is related to the size of your den and the poses chosen to be removed)?

The cub stages are only present for a short period of time, so if you decide you don't like a certain stage it is gone in a few days. However cub stages is still permanently unlocked once you buy it.
To me permanent unlocking of poses for all current and future lionesses doesn't make sense. One possible answer would be to make the bulk unlocking timed, just like auto nest or feed all play all.



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Lex 🦋 (#56485)

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2016-08-12 04:20:27
How's this for an idea: stop trying to find things to make suggestions about that aren't actual problems

There isn't a point to this. The poses are fine with the 1gb option. You can pick what you want then. You can apply them to who you want then. And it's not even hard to get them, considering that people are doing raffles for sb and handing them out in goodie bags for prizes.
Selling them "in bulk" for 20gb blows me away, considering that up there you stated that "paying 20gb for them, maybe only allow it on 15 or so lions?"

No. That solves nothing for your "mass breeder" problem. Literally that would do nothing except be a useless feature because nobody would pay 20gb for a random bulk that would only cover 15 lions, when they could pay 20gb for their own poses and assign them to their own lions- and get more poses !!!

This thread seems like it was made for just the kick of saying you made it. No support.



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Edited on 12/08/16 @ 11:21:57 by Lex [#TeamFilthyFrank] (#56485)

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2017-11-14 13:24:13
yeah, this WOULD be nice. I find it very hard scrounging up just enough SB to buy a single pose.. I get by with food just fine, amusement items i'm a little less than lucky with. But the most GB I've ever had at a time was 4. i used that on poses. Like I said, this WOULD be nice, I'd rather not push them into having more to work on than they already have. This is not an issue and it's not a bad suggestion. But I'm sure the admins already have a lot on their plates. I'm already so impressed with how far this site has gotten. i Love it.



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Gen (#89069)

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2018-12-22 13:24:24
I'm a lazy bum okay? I don't want to constantly track which lioness has which personality and needs which pose, buying the poses all one on one and then watching out that I put the right pose on the right lion - just to repeat that proces everytime I switch out lionesses in my clan.

Give me that automatic 'all lionesses get the right pose' option - and if it costs 500 GB? Who cares. I'd happily pay this as long as I do not have the troube of the way it is right now. Which actually has kept me from buying poses at all...



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