Posted by Tell what items are being transferred (80+)

Dinocanid (#69182)

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2016-11-17 11:04:07
I noticed that when you transfer items it says the number of items you're sending, but not what those items are. If you have a huge hoard, it means scrolling through the long list all over again just to find what's highlighted blue. It only tells you what items you sent after you send them. It would prevent accidentally sending the wrong item if it told you before as well, instead of just the amount. It hasn't happened to me yet, but I'm sure it has to other users.

For clarity, the message would not show on a different page; it would be similar to how it is now when you send items. The same popup would be displayed but it would name the items instead of just the number. In addition to that, sending multiple of the same item would make the number of items appear next to it, rather then listing them all off.
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(courtesy of Robert [frye'd])

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The option would be able to be toggled on and off, so you can keep it the way it is now if you want (Shadow2002)



This suggestion has 93 supports and 4 NO supports.



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Edited on 15/01/17 @ 08:17:32 by Dinocanid (#69182)

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Posted on
2016-11-17 11:19:11
You could call it "tell what items are being transferred" or "name items being transferred" just so its more clear. Since technically it already does tell what items WERE transferred.

You have my support though! This would be handy.



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Dinocanid (#69182)

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2016-11-17 11:26:29
Yeah, I changed it to "tell what items are being transferred". Thanks for the support!



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Shadow (Main) (#73284)

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Posted on
2016-11-18 06:10:03
You do know, when you send the transfer it tells you what has been transfered as well as looking in the sent messages at the transfer message.



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Dinocanid (#69182)

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2016-11-18 06:16:12
I mentioned that in the OP:
"I noticed that when you transfer items it says the number of items you're sending, but not what those items are."
I was speaking about before the transfer is sent in order to avoid sending the wrong items. Then there's the problem of whether or not the person you sent it to will actually give the items back; which hopefully there isn't one but it does happen. Maybe I should reword it?



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Edited on 18/11/16 @ 13:19:31 by Dinocanid (#69182)

Shadow (Main) (#73284)

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2016-11-18 06:29:05
You can always bury the items you are not sending and send the transfer of items that you want. Since they will be not be buried and you can choose what items to bury and not bury.

I just do not think this should be implemented since there are ways around it.



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Dinocanid (#69182)

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2016-11-18 06:33:43
But that would involve burying a majority of my hoard just to send a transfer; every time I transfer. Unless I keep my whole hoard buried, but I don't like to keep my hoard buried because I would have to bury every item I get and only dig up what I want to transfer. It seems like a hassle when a simple solution would just be to tell us what items we're sending before we send them.



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2016-11-18 06:45:29
Definitely have to agree with Dino here. He has a very valid point with this suggestion, and its a pretty simple suggestion. Saying that it shouldn't be implemented just because there is a way around it (however cumbersome) is like saying we should never have invented an elevator because you can always use the stairs.

This suggestion could easily prevent a lot of awkward accidents and could help decrease theft in situations where the user you accidentally sent an item to fails to send it back.



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Shadow (Main) (#73284)

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2016-11-18 06:46:04
You don't have to keep everything buried. I keep most everything that is not food buried. When i need to use something or transfer something i dig it up and transfer it. Then when i want to use something i dig it up and use it. It actually makes it a lot easier.

Lets say you have something that you don't want to transfer or use, you bury it. Lets say you have something that looks like something else and you want to use that item but you use the other and it only has one use. Then your out of luck.

I have done it and know how hard it is to use something you don't want to use.

That is why i bury everything but food then when i need to transfer, put on branch or in trading center i dig it up. If i want to use something i will check my buried hoard and check to make sure i have the item and dig it up. There is a section in the hoard that you can dig up one item or the whole stack and you can chose to dig up more then one item or one stack and you can even bury one item or stack or several of them.

If you look at it that way then you might see that it would work. Like i said i do not like this idea because that would be to much on one page. You are saying to name each and every item. That means if i transfered 50 items (no matter what they are) you want each item named. Then when you have every item named the page will be to crowded. I just don't think this would be a really good idea.

That is just how i feel. If there was a different way, like each item is paired together with same items. Like 2 buffalo scrotum will be like this: 2x buffalo scrotums, then i might like that, but the way you are saying now just does not seem like a good idea.

Think about what the suggestion is saying, it wants the name of all items listed before you send a trade, but from what i am understanding it does not say anything about like items being grouped together. The way i see it, this is just something to help those players that don't want to look through to make sure each item they want to send is actually highlighted. Or if they don't want to use the hoard system already in place.

Also if this was able to be turned off i would have a better feeling about it. I don't think it should be permanent feature that is not able to be turned off for the players using the systems already in the game.



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Edited on 18/11/16 @ 13:49:04 by Shadow2002 (#73284)

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Posted on
2016-11-18 06:50:32
Shadow, it wouldn't be crowded because what Dino is suggestion is simply that the "are you sure" page with the final button to transfer look just like the one that already appears AFTER a transfer. This page already displays/names every item that was transferred and its not cluttered at all.



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Dinocanid (#69182)

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Posted on
2016-11-18 06:53:24
That's the way it would be though; it wouldn't list every single individual item in a list since the page would be miles long if it did. Multiple of the same item would be like you stated, so it would be:
2x buffalo scrotum (or) 10x buffalo scrotum (depending on how much on the same item you send.)

Instead of:
buffalo scrotum
buffalo scrotum

Listing it like that would make the page too long.



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Edited on 18/11/16 @ 13:53:46 by Dinocanid (#69182)

Shadow (Main) (#73284)

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2016-11-18 06:53:46
Actually it does not say in the OP that the same page will be shown or not. It just says to show what is to be transfered. Not that the same page that is shown after you send the transfer.


So until something is done about the wording of the suggestion, i am going to have to say no support. Sorry.



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Dinocanid (#69182)

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2016-11-18 06:55:11
I'll update the OP for clarity then, since all of that was implied. Sorry if it caused any confusion.



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Shadow (Main) (#73284)

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2016-11-18 07:03:18
When a suggestion is made you have to look at it from all points of view.

Lets say a new player that has only been on the game for a few days, saw this before it was changed they would not understand what you are talking about.

I look at it from people who have problem understanding things, new players and even players that have never used the transfer system.

That is the only reason i even said anything. For those people to understand what you mean you need to make your self think and see things like they do. Then you would have a good suggestion.



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Dinocanid (#69182)

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2016-11-18 07:08:23
So, what else needs to be added to it? It looks pretty straight forward to me (you select what you want to transfer, it tells you what you selected and asks if you're sure if you want to send, you send the items, done.) but if it isn't then I'll try to edit it more.



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Shadow (Main) (#73284)

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2016-11-18 07:16:16
Now it looks really good. I think everyone should be able to understand it more. Good luck. Oh and i still think it should be able to be turned off if a player does not want to use it. That way players with a slower internet or with a slow computer will be able to still use it the way it is now.



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