Posted by Studding: Superfecundation and Superfetation (100+

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2017-01-20 10:24:26
Did you know...

That among felines, canines and -- very rarely -- humans, it is possible for a female to have a single litter and that litter have multiple fathers? This is called superfecundation and I think it would be very interesting to add to the game. Realistically, when lions mate, a successful mating triggers the female to release another egg (barbed bits n' all). Lioden doesn't reflect this, but it could!

A lioness, when in heat, could have a possibility of triggering another heat when successfully mated with. Maybe the chance of this happening starts at 50%, then drops to 25%, then to 12% with a maximum number of 3 triggerable subsequent heats (so 4 matings in all). The amount of heats triggered would not have any relation to the amount of cubs born. You would think that the male who mated first would have the highest chance of siring a cub on the lioness, but male lion anatomy is designed scrape out any competing sperm from previous males, so actually the latest male would be the most likely of subsequent heats to father any other cubs.

The average litter is two cubs, or so I'm told. So basically it would work like this...

The VERY first male to breed with her would have a 100% chance of siring both cubs. If a second male enters the picture, that chance drops to 50 for both males. A third male would drop it to 25%, with the newest male taking to 50 and a fourth male would drop the original 2 to 12%, the third male to 25%, and elevate himself to 50%. The final male, in accordance to nature, has the greatest chance of siring the most cubs.

This is all optional, of course. If you only want to breed your lady to one stud, remaining breedings can be ignored. :)

And now we get on to Superfetation. Superfetation is the act of falling pregnant while already pregnant and, again, is common in felines. Essentially, there is a chance of your lioness going into head again on her second day of pregnancy. Since VLF lionesses are special in that they have a chance in producing muties, I think the Superfetation possibility should be afforded to Goddess and, to a lesser extent, High fert lionesses. Basically, you'd see the pregnant and heat icons next to a female on her second day, and upon clicking on her you would receive a message that said, "This lioness has entered an extra heat cycle and can breed again whilst she is pregnant!" And upon breeding the default pregnancy message would read something like: "This female is expecting two litters from [insert lion name here]" or in the case of two different males, "This female is expecting two litters, one from [lion name] and another from [lion name]! She will give birth to the first in 2 days and the second in 3 days!"

Superfetal lionesses require more nesting materials, and maybe have an extra five-day breeding cooldown period. A risk could be a premature cub, which would introduce Runts to Lioden, who could be penalized stat wise for strength and stamina but otherwise, still be able to King and Train (for males, though the cooldown would be longer) and breed for females (female runts have the capability of producing more runts).

Thoughts?



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Edited on 22/01/17 @ 06:49:43 by Jaxster [KimanPiedRosette] (#98288)

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2017-01-20 16:55:08
Instead of runts - which I imagine would be a nightmre for coding - perhaps a certain portion of the litter might not live past say, 3 months (like a lethal mutation)?



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2017-01-20 16:56:26
Absolutely not. This will ONLY incite Stud wars and I don't approve of that. If you want to breed your lioness to a stud, you should Only put it to one stud. it takes a lot of energy to breed many of these lionesses and it is really aggravating to spend 50 energy on breeding only to loose the payout because someone else's lion actually got her covered.

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JAX •
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2017-01-20 16:59:29
Nah Sem, if most of them are gonna die then what's even the point? Superfetal breeding is only lethal to humans in that way anyhow.

And Shadow, how people should breed isn't for you to decide. If it's that much of a problem, there could be a notification next to the lioness on the breeding requests thing (this lioness had already been bred) and then you could just reject her. Also, not ALL lionesses would have that capability.



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Berenos|On hiatus (#84593)

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Posted on
2017-01-21 23:45:20
This sounds really interesting, support!



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Posted on
2017-01-22 03:51:19
Too complicated, imho



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JAX •
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2017-01-22 05:26:48
Maybe the first idea, but the second might not be so bad.

Then again, I've got little experience with coding so I can only say so much...



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2017-01-22 06:15:10
i support! its a great idea and yes maybe a pain to code also it has to be lower on chance or else there will arise the problem of too many cubs in lioden and selling double the amount of cubs and such so maybe for goddess fert maybe 1-7% very high - good could be 1-6% average could be 1-5% and low - very low could be 1-4%



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JAX •
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2017-01-22 06:16:29
I already have numbers on the first page-- they're a bit lower than what you've proposed. I still believe, to keep the cub count stable on Lioden, it only be exclusive to Goddess and High fert lionesses.



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JAX •
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2020-04-03 16:52:17
So looks like Wolvden is having runts...

But "too complicated" and "A nightmare to code" right?



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