To anwer the question about lineage, when you stat replace - picking a heir as you normally would, but choosing to keep your current looks instead - what you're doing is overwriting the looks the lion you're choosing for those of your retiring king. This means that the next king will have the looks of the former one, but will have his own stats, heritage, and mutation/no mutation. In an example: you have your first, rolled lion about to die, so you buy a male cub to another player. The rolled lion has no heritage - so his parents are unknown - but the little male has Babar as his father and Mala as his mother. You want to keep your current lion's looks - the ones of the lion about to retire - so you pick the little male as the heir, and click on the "keep my current male's looks" box. Once you do this, your new male will be 3 years old if he was any younger than that, will have the heritage and stats of the cub, but will have your old lion's looks.

But really, the wiki page explains it a lot better than I ever could xD

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So technically, the new King will be linked to another pride yes? Your first kings ancestry (for the lack of a better term) dies off, by buying a stat replacer? (I mean it literally makes sense but just for certainties sake)

I was told the wiki page doesn't register on Mobile so that's why I started this tbh xD

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@Zlo výkon

Yes, the king will be linked to the player who bred it - in the sense that his parents would be in another account, but that's it. Stat replacing that king doesn't have to mean that his lineage dies off. You could keep his daughters, and choose one of their male cubs to be king at a later date, keep around one of his sons instead, to train while the new one is around and choose him as the next king, there could be cubs of this first king around if you sold/gifted them to another player, or sent them to the Giving Tree... That's isn't dying off to me.

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Ah, my 5am brain didn't think of that, Thank you for the extra detail, I'll be updating the question! :D

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Adding another question to the thread: Is there a limit to how many times I can Stat Replace a specific previous Kings Looks?

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Does Stat Replacing my King effect my Pride Dynasty (Lineage) If I were to Buy a Stat Replacer?
When you stat replace your king, it will have a different Lineage than the male before him. *just a note, your old king will register in your King Dynasty*. But stat replacing will not effect your Pride Dynasty, at least to my knowledge. I have never noticed anything different with my kings and when i stat replace them.


At what Lion age (original King) is it best to start training/buying a Stat Replacer?
This is totally up to the player, but to have higher stats (mind you, you can purchase a lion with high stats 1k+ and 2k+ and some times 3k+). But most of those lions are some times older. The younger you have the male/female the better. I normally start my stat replacers out at about 5 months. This way i can train them up in both cub and adol training. And female cubs can still be sex changed *1 year- 1 Year 11 months* even if they went out for training with your older lionesses. Keep in mind though, a female/male can not be sex changed if they have been patrolled/hunted or over the age of 3 or has a mutation. Females that have been breed can not be sex changed as well. Normally a stat replacer will be taken to the age of 13 years some times 14 years and will age down *de-age* to 8 years.


What is a good range of Stats for a Replacer, if I'm last minute buying? (if King is near death)
This depends on what you are planing on doing. Most of the time you can just go buy a cheap stat rep *1k-2k stats* and use him while working on your next stat replacer/king.

Is it more effective to train your own Stat Replacer VS Buying one?
If you train your own stat replacer you can keep records of his patrols, what he gets when he ages up *the age up stat boost that adol get when trained to 75% and 100%*. You can even keep track of other things as well, like lets say you used 10 Giant Tortoises and got x amount of EXP, you can put in that exp boost and got him to x level. You can also use it to keep track of anything else you use on him. Like Egg Yolks, honeycombs and the like. And you wont have to guess what the bought one had used on him.

EDIT: Is there a limit to how many times I can Stat Replace a specific previous Kings Looks?
No there is no limit on how many times you can use your old males looks. But once you choose a different look, there is no way of getting it back unless you try to get that look again. But remember some markings/manes/bases are breed only or applicator only. And remember if you have a male with a mutation you will need to use a stat replacer with the mutation if you want to keep the mutation.

This is only my opinion. Others might have something different to say.

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That is all Incredibly helpful! Thank you for the lengthy detail! I'll be updating the questions :D

If there is any side information or your own Questions (either genuine or accompanied by an answer aswell) you'd like to add to the thread to assist curious players please let me know!

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Shadow a little extra detail for the 'what age is it best to start training/buying a stat replacer' I meant moreso at what point in your Kings growing age is it best to start looking/training a suitable cub.

Like for example, My King is currently 8 years old, should I wait to search for an heir until he's more close to 13-14 or is that a matter of opinion?

But the answer you provided will definitely be the bulk of the information put under the question section

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Does Stat Replacing my King effect my Pride Dynasty (Lineage) If I were to Buy a Stat Replacer?
The stat rep will show up like any other king in your dynasty, separate from the king that he inherited the looks from. He will have the looks he dies with(that of your previous king + any changes you made over his life) and the rest of the information of the replacer(personality, mutations, etc) So yes, the new king(stat replacer) would not be a descendant of your old king(Looks).
At what Lion age (original King) is it best to start training/buying a Stat Replacer?
Depends how serious you are about stats, and what the market looks like. There are also a few different strategies.
If you're buying one as a cub/breeding one to train until their 15 so you can age them down to 8(When you king an older lion they will age down to 8) and then age them down again during april: get it around the time your previous king retires, use the 15 years of your next kings life to train the stat replacer and replace once the other king is on his death bed. (Buy or breed your next cub at this point, so it's ready to replace your next king)
If you're buying a cub for longevity rather than highest possible stats try to start in April when your looks king is close to death,(Using the early retirement is also possible for 10 GB, or 25 GB if you've used it recently) cub train until they are about to be adolescents and then freeze them until the bunny holes open up. Once the bunny holes are open train them in them every day, as well as your choice of patrolling or hunting(If they were born female and you haven't sex changed them yet. If you don't have a reason to patrol and he is born a female I'd suggest hunting, I feel like it's a lot easier to keep up with and is more worthwhile if you're not in the process of training a sub, since it yields more income. How close to your kings death exactly you should buy them if April isn't an option depends on your stat goal, the replacers starting stats, and your stat gain pace. These all depend on you, so I can't really say anything for sure.

What is a good range of Stats for a Replacer, if I'm last minute buying? (if King is near death)
Again, this relies on your preferences. But typically go for at least 2k. While 1.5-2k is decent any below that is generally considered pretty low for a king in any pride that cares about stats. Especially if you have a statty hunting team. 2-2.5k is the best you'll get without really breaking the bank, and if you buy one at say, 1.9k you'll probably get a good deal since it doesn't hit that 2k mark, and wont be as visible in trade searches. After 2.5k they start getting significantly more pricey, but you might be able to get a 2k for as low as 15-20 GB at the current market, since it's been pretty bad recently. I'd advise going for younger replacers as they're worth the extra as opposed to replacers that will cost you less, but only be good for a few years. Youthful replacers give you more bang for your buck no matter if you're going for longevity or more stats.

Is it more effective to train your own Stat Replacer VS Buying one?
Once again, this is on you. If you have the time and attention span to train a replacer you'll have a much higher potential. The ones that are sold aren't given the same effort, since they wont get enough GB to cover the effort. If it's a matter of buying vs breeding however I'd often suggest breeding. It's best to have high stat girls before getting a statty king anyhow, as they get you into the habit of stat upkeep and allow you to produce stat replacers(which your king will not have the ability to do, unless you wind up at the top end of the leaderboard, but even Mel only makes 1k cubs from low stat females. Of course if you find a steal on a male that's no longer sex changeable, or have a good hunting team you don't feel the need to replace, go for it! But I'd definitely prioritize high stat lioness over high stat starting point stat replacers

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Now, to the "At what Lion age (original King) is it best to start training/buying a Stat Replacer?" question. This mostly depends if you wish to be the one to train the stat replacer, or if you want to do it yourself, which is linked to another question you have, too, which is "Is it more effective to train your own Stat Replacer VS Buying one?".

Those who are into stat breeding want to have the highest stats possible, so they will train the male until they can't anymore - up to 14 years and 11 months, because regular lions have a chance to die every day from the moment they hit 15 years old. I know for sure that lions any younger than 3 years old will be aged up to 3 when you choose them to be your next king, and something similar happens to old lions - those above a certain age are de-aged to 8 years old when you king them, so once they're above that age it's really worth it to just keep sending them on patrols and such until there's a chance of him dying each Rollover, then either force-retire your current king and choose them, or keep the trained heir "frozen" in a side account for when you need him.

I'd say that buying one already trained or train him yourself would depend on the time you can dedicate to their training: if you can send them on patrols every hour for as long as you're awake, then perhaps you'd like to train him yourself. If you can't and can pay for it, then buying the stat replacer is your best bet. Then there is the possibility of buying food items that have a high chance of raising his stats a bit, like honeycombs, egg yolks, ect., or amusement items that also have a high chance of giving stats. It all revolves around the resources you have and the time you can spend on him, as well as your knowledge of the items you can use to rise his stats and the timing: if you don't use your side account as a "storage", then you'll want to train him from the very beginning so that, when you can retire your king without paying the 10GB fee - from 15 years old onwards -, the other male has the highest stats he could have.

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For that question, everyone has a different time of starting their stat rep/heir. Like i said, i normally would start trianing mine at 5 months with the cub (5-11 months old) training then do the training for the age range of 1 year to 1 year 11 months. At two years i would start patrolling him. Normally i try to get a stat rep that is just a few years younger than my king because your king can live all the way up to 16. At 15 years you can retire him with out paying anything. So lets say my king is 3 years old. I would get a 5 month old cub. That way by the time my king is 15-16 years i can stat replace my king with my worked on stat rep. Mind you i have only done a few stat replacers before. But at the same time, i am going to be starting one by the end of the month. And i have no idea what age my king is right now. But if anything i would just use a replacement that can hold my stat reps spot. That way i can still continue to train him.

But everyone is different. I know there are people that work even harder to do it. And some that just stat replace with the highest stat lion they can afford.

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Thank you guys very much for all of your detail and lengthy responses to the thread, I understand alot of this is a matter of opinion, but to someone like me, your guys' varied opinions and views on the subject matter opened up alot more knowledge of the concept to me than I had walking in blind with it, so Opinions are very much welcome! I added a reference note to look through the replies for extra detailing or more information, also I will be updating the questions based on what I believe to be the best initial answer for the main thread, mostly what's easiest to understand. I appreciate the help immensely!

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Question:

What if you have a mutated stat replacer but want to keep your king's looks? Does the mutation pass since mutations are attached to the individual lions?

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@Leawolf - Mutations are linked to the lions who have them so, for example, if you have a Primal king but your stat replacer is a normal lion and you choose to keep your Primal king's looks, the markings, base, eye color, etc, will be kept but his mutation will not (you will be given a normal lion with the Primal king's markings and the like). This means, when stat replacing, if your looking to keep your king's mutation (or looking to add one), you must find a stat replacer with the desired mutation.

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I understand that: but if I'm stat replacing with a primal and want to keep the former king's looks, will the mutation override? As in I want a primal king with my current king's looks and my stat replacer is primal. Does that make sense?

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