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 Hamish[Quit UFN] (#92683) Punisher View Forum Posts  Posted on 2017-04-21 18:16:36 |
Hey there! So there are a fair amount of Threads on the subject of Stat Replacing but none of them really fully Explain the ins and outs of it so I created this thread as a in-depth condensed guide to help you get a strong grasp of what Stat Replacing is to a T! If there's another LD Feature/Topic you want me to create a Guide of, Please let me know! So, Assuming not everyone has a full grasp of Stat Replacing, I decided to compile a breakdown thread consisting of information based upon the list below, As they are properly answered, I will turn the *Questions into Sections sort of as a in-progress guide for reference. Anyone who can answer properly and provide significant information for the questions Will be credited (i.e. you will be more or less quoted and at the end of the explanation it will say "~ Player #IDNUMBER, with the date for relevance) So this is Definitely A team effort thread. Be sure to read through some of the replies to the thread to find what best fits the type of player you are! Alot of this is subject to opinion, so take a moment to see if you can find someone you share the view with and follow their advice! Here we go! Questions; (Editing as we go) Stat Replacing, What is it? How does it work? "Stat replacing is the concept of training up or buying a suitable heir with high stats to in a sense 'override' your king, He will Keep the original kings LOOKS, but everything else will belong to the selected Heir. Your Kings Mutation will not transfer to the Heir. If the Heir has his own mutation, it will Stay just with the original Kings Marking/Base layout. Example; A 204Stat Glacial Primal King with 4 Onyx Marks, Stat Replaced by a 2300Stat Maroon Polycaudal with 2 White Marks, will become a 2300Stat Glacial Polycaudal with 4 Onyx Marks. Stat Replacing is a Literal title, as that's generally All you're doing to your King" ~ Frank Castle (#92683) @4/22/17 Is there a limit to how many times I can Stat Replace a specific previous Kings Looks? "No there is no limit on how many times you can use your old males looks. But once you choose a different look, there is no way of getting it back unless you try to get that look again. But remember some markings/manes/bases are breed only or applicator only. And remember if you have a male with a mutation you will need to use a stat replacer with the mutation if you want to keep the mutation."~ Courtesy of Shadow2002 (#73284) 4/22/17 Does Stat Replacing my King effect my Pride Dynasty (Lineage) If I were to Buy a Stat Replacer? "what you're doing is overwriting the looks of the lion you're choosing for those of your retiring king. This means that the next king will have the looks of the former one, but will have his own stats, heritage, and mutation/no mutation. In an example: you have your first, rolled lion about to die, so you buy a male cub from another player. The rolled lion (your very first) has no heritage - so his parents are unknown - but the little male has Babar as his father and Mala as his mother. You want to keep your current lion's looks - the ones of the lion about to retire - so you pick the little male as the heir, and click on the "keep my current male's looks" box. Once you do this, your new male will be 3 years old if he was any younger than that, will have the heritage and stats of the cub, but will have your old lion's looks. So the Heritage will Branch to the new Kings Parents (Original King will still register in your Dynasty, He isn't lost!), but if you want to maintain a tie to your original King, you can keep some of his daughters or a son from him to nurture and become the next King"~ Courtesy of Berenos (#84593) 4/22/17 At what Lion age (original King) is it best to start training/buying a Stat Replacer? "Depends how serious you are about stats, and what the market looks like. There are also a few different strategies. If you're buying one as a cub/breeding one to train until their 15 so you can age them down to 8(When you king an older lion they will age down to 8) and then age them down again during april: get it around the time your previous king retires, use the 15 years of your next kings life to train the stat replacer and replace once the other king is on his death bed. (Buy or breed your next cub at this point, so it's ready to replace your next king) If you're buying a cub for longevity rather than highest possible stats try to start in April when your looks king is close to death,(Using the early retirement is also possible for 10 GB, or 25 GB if you've used it recently) cub train until they are about to be adolescents and then freeze them until the bunny holes open up. Once the bunny holes are open train them in them every day, as well as your choice of patrolling or hunting(If they were born female and you haven't sex changed them yet. If you don't have a reason to patrol and he is born a female I'd suggest hunting, I feel like it's a lot easier to keep up with and is more worthwhile if you're not in the process of training a sub, since it yields more income. How close to your kings death exactly you should buy them if April isn't an option depends on your stat goal, the replacers starting stats, and your stat gain pace. These all depend on you, so I can't really say anything for sure." ~ Courtesy of Virus [Blush Breeder] -(CCC) (#123) 4/22/17 What is a good range of Stats for a Replacer, if I'm last minute buying? (if King is near death) "This depends on what you are planing on doing. Most of the time you can just go buy a cheap stat rep *1k-2k stats* and use him while working on your next stat replacer/king."~ Courtesy of Shadow2002 (#73284) 4/22/17 Is it more effective to train your own Stat Replacer VS Buying one? If you train your own stat replacer you can keep records of his patrols, what he gets when he ages up *the age up stat boost that adol get when trained to 75% and 100%*. You can even keep track of other things as well, like lets say you used 10 Giant Tortoises and got x amount of EXP, you can put in that exp boost and got him to x level. You can also use it to keep track of anything else you use on him. Like Egg Yolks, honeycombs and the like. And you wont have to guess what the bought one had used on him~ Courtesy of Shadow2002 (#73284) 4/22/17 How long is the cool down period after you replace your king? Cooldown Period is 1 Month after retiring your King, So if you try to Replace again before the 1 Month period, there is an extra fee of 15GB on top of the 10GB retirement fee equaling 25GB. Retiring your King at 15 Years Old, However, is Free. ~ OG Statement Credit: Bat {Satan Is Not Amused} - Official LD Mod #68800 5/14/18 *Quote Revised & Added more detail by Frank Castle #92683 I want a new heir, and I also want to Stat replace that heir, do I have to immediately do this and pay the fee? Say Lion A is the current King you have and he is within early retirement age, you move onto Lion B (the heir) for Free, There is a Cooldown of 1 Month before you can move onto Lion C unless you want to bypass which is 10GB for the early retirement and another 15GB for the cooldown bypass. You do NOT have to immediately stat replace, but keep in mind the older the Stat replacer grows to be, the more the age of the finished stat replaced King will be. ~ Frank Castle (#92683) If you have a question about Stat Replacing that isn't on the list that you would like answered, PM me or Reply to the Thread starting with "QUESTION" and it will be added! This thread is made for the purpose of helping misguided or lost players understand what this process is, it is a Learning friendly thread, no question is a stupid one. ***Please note that if you are trying to stat replace a mutie with a different type for breeding purposes, Only Primal (male specific), & Piebald/Patches are Hereditary (Naturally Passing). Any other mutie King is Soley cosmetic (for visual appreciation), Having a mutie King that isn't a Hereditary mutie will not give you a greater chance of producing his mutation. Do not Get Scammed by Studs or Stat Replacer sellers. OG Fur is Female Only, you CANNOT Sex Change an OG Fur Cub to be a OG Fur King! If anyone notices any information on this thread to be incorrect, Please notify me immediately so it can be fixed. For any extra detail you might need you may visit The Official Lioden Wikia Currently Unavailable to Mobile users  2 players like this post! Like? Edited on 08/11/18 @ 09:32:53 by Jekt[Back From Hiatus] (#92683) |
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It's a Paradox [Side] (#43368) Deathlord of the Jungle View Forum Posts Posted on 2017-06-27 13:53:00 |
@Leawolf - Mutations work just like lion stats in that they are linked to the lion themselves. So, if you chose to keep your former king's looks when stat replacing, the heirs mutation will be applied to the "look" of the king while keeping the King's markings. So, yes, it will override the former king's mutation status with the heir's, meaning the Primal of the heir stays, just like the heir's stats. I hope this makes a bit more sense? 0 players like this post! Like? |
leawolf (#95147)
Impeccable View Forum Posts Posted on 2017-06-27 13:54:29 |
Yes that does. Thank you SnowyCat for taking the time to answer my questions!  0 players like this post! Like? |
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It's a Paradox [Side] (#43368) Deathlord of the Jungle View Forum Posts Posted on 2017-06-27 13:56:35 |
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Hamish[Quit UFN] (#92683)
Punisher View Forum Posts Posted on 2017-06-27 15:04:52 |
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Jeza (Crested Dbl Mott Trophy) (#128583) Impeccable View Forum Posts Posted on 2017-12-23 18:31:58 |
First things first THANK YOU for making a clear andcocise thread that has almost all my questions answered!! As I said... almost. I have another question that is not answered in this thread. How long is the cool down period after you replace your king? For example: my king is the starter lion, hes plain and not worth the work to make him otherwise. I am going to retire him early and put in a BEAUTIFUL fella with crappy stats. How long after replacement can I stat replace pretty crappy stat lion for 10GB rather than 25GB? 0 players like this post! Like? |
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Hamish[Quit UFN] (#92683)
Punisher View Forum Posts Posted on 2018-05-14 03:10:46 |
@Jeza after 6 months your question has been officially added to the thread! Sorry, apparently during my Hiatus there was also a locking and movement of threads around but I was able to get the thread onto the User Created Guides section and it's back in action with a bit of a revise! 0 players like this post! Like? |
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FoolsgoldFenrir (#27778)
Unholy View Forum Posts Posted on 2018-10-29 10:42:04 |
So if you wanted an entirety different heir to keep but also wanted to stat replace that new heir, would you have to then retire that heir immediately to stat replace them? (Basically, will I have to pay an extra 10 GB to do this?) 0 players like this post! Like? |
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Hamish[Quit UFN] (#92683)
Punisher View Forum Posts Posted on 2018-11-08 03:17:33 |
@Aly trying to understand your question, you mean say you have Lion A, and you're changing to Lion B but you want to use the stats of Lion C to have the King you want? 0 players like this post! Like? |
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FoolsgoldFenrir (#27778)
Unholy View Forum Posts Posted on 2018-11-08 05:47:20 |
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Hamish[Quit UFN] (#92683)
Punisher View Forum Posts Posted on 2018-11-08 06:13:34 |
If your current King is eligible for early retirement and you go to Lion B, there will be a cooldown for the next coming King (retirement cooldown) and there is an extra charge for bypassing the cooldown when going on to Lion C. It can get costly. If you're trying to retire before the retirement age of your current King that does have a 10GB fee, but retiring within the cooldown of that new king is another 25. So going from Lion A to Lion B to Lion C all within one time frame is 35GB Lion A to C without early retirement but off cooldown- 10GB Lion C to Lion B without early retirement and cooldown active - 25GB Forced retirement is 10 Forced retirement while cooldown is active is 15 If you mean are you Obligated to go to the stat replacement after retiring Lion A and moving onto B, then no. As long as you maintain their health you can have Lion C sitting however long you want but their age when finally Kinged will be effected 0 players like this post! Like?Edited on 08/11/18 @ 06:25:49 by Jekt[Back From Hiatus] (#92683) |
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FoolsgoldFenrir (#27778)
Unholy View Forum Posts Posted on 2018-11-08 09:16:37 |
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Churro (#244797)
Luscious View Forum Posts Posted on 2021-12-25 12:43:06 |
So this is probably a dumb question but if I stat replace my frail piebald king with a Harlequin piebald, will his pie mutation change to harlequin? And if I breed him, will it pass on his original looks markings or will it give the stat replacers markings? 0 players like this post! Like? |
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Tenderpaw [FROZEN] (#241921)
Special Snowflake View Forum Posts Posted on 2022-06-24 07:32:53 |
Question: (I'm asking for a friend) She recently Mutated a male to ferus. And has a stat replacer. If she King's the one she would like to use, and then replaces that one with the rep will the mutation pass? As she would like to keep the looks of the ferus 0 players like this post! Like? |
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