Posted by Hide a mutation

⛧August⛧ (#93898)

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Posted on
2017-05-03 01:22:29
Okay so I know there are a lot of you out there who have a beautiful lion with a mutation that you love and you have the best décor for them, but lo and behold, the décor hasn't been updated for the certain mutation and it's either somewhere on the lion it shouldn't be or floating in midair. Alternatively, you may have designed or bred the best looking lion you've ever had, maybe it's design is based on something else or it shows off that one marking you love so much, but it has a mutation that hides the marking or ruins the design. For instance, piebald is a sought after mutation and it passes down, so pretty much anyone can get one just by breeding to pie studs. That means a lot of players have the mutation and there are cases where it covers a good part of the lion. Now let me go on a tangent for a little while here so I can show you why I want this feature.

This is Toony. I really wanted to king him.
toony_by_voidfur-db7z8m6.png
I bought him from a player who still has his rolled king and bred him using his rolled king and an NCL. He had one of the 7 'Z' golden bases and his only marking was Brown Shroud. Now cubs like that don't ever get a chance. They're either sent off to the Giving Tree where someone else will kill/preserve/chase them so that they are no longer in the game, or they're killed/preserved/chased by the players who breed them which yields the same result. Maybe it's just me, but I love the fact of a player who still owns their rolled king finding out that one of their king's sons is now a king. This is one reason I want this suggestion to be considered.

This is what Toony will soon look like.
toony_finished_by_voidfur-db7z8mh.png
It's a loving homage to the Rubber Hose style (a.k.a Old Disney style or 30s style, as I've also heard it called.) which was the main animation style of the 1930s in America. The multiple markings give him a white-ish face which, of course, is supposed to be the white face that nearly all animal characters had. Then the White Trotters marking is supposed to be the white gloves that a lot of the characters wore. Being the animation nut that I am, I love the idea of a king based on old style animation. I'm almost positive that no one has done that yet. This is the second reason.

This is what Toony would look like with any kind of piebald.
toony_pie_by_voidfur-db7z8ms.pngtoony_pie_by_voidfur-db7za7z.pngtoony_pie_by_voidfur-db7zadb.pngtoony_pie_by_voidfur-db7zahd.pngtoony_pie_by_voidfur-db7zalq.pngtoony_pie_by_voidfur-db7zaqu.pngtoony_pie_by_voidfur-db7zatt.png
In every case, the original design is destroyed by the piebald. The white face and gloves idea is overshadowed by white nearly everywhere on the body and every piebald makes the nose pink in some way, which goes against the design in a different way. He's supposed to be exclusively black and white, so that he looks as if a cartoon character from the 1930s jumped out of his frame and is living in a colorful world. Any ounce of color in his genetics ruins the illusion.

I know what you may be thinking. Just don't buy a piebald lion. Just don't make him piebald. Just king someone else. Just wait to have a piebald king.

1. I already have, I bought him before I bought Toony.
2. I can't just let a male pie be a sub-male. 4 GB is way too much to pay for a sub-male.
3. I've spent 6 GB on Toony so far. I will have used 30 GB after I'm done. That is not an option.
4. I can't keep my side frozen forever. At some point I'll be kicked out of clans for being inactive.
-I am a part of the Hard Mode clan on my side. I can't join on my main, I don't qualify here.

Now back to the suggestion, how will we integrate the feature? Make it an item, priced at 3-5 GB in the oasis. That way it'll be fairly rare, but not impossible to get. Not only that, make it a décor item so it can be removed if the player changes their mind. Maybe it should have somewhere around 5 uses. If you have anything to add to the suggestion please let me know. If you don't support this idea, tell me why.



This suggestion has 170 supports and 26 NO supports.



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g1 olive nrlc (#84624)

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Posted on
2017-05-03 06:37:15
I agree, just one suggestion: Maybe make it around 2 GB, for poor players like me?



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💰Green1Chaos (#32339)

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Posted on
2017-05-06 19:01:24
I need a bit more information:

Like what if your basing your male off of a character from a show. Like if you have a dwarf and your making him into a meerkat. But a certain decor is not working because of no updates. Can't base hiding a mutation on one.



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⛧August⛧ (#93898)

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Posted on
2017-05-06 19:12:55
@Green1Chaos, Like I stated above, the feature could be implemented as an item with 5 or more uses, so a player can attach and detach it at will. So if a player hasn't wasted the uses, they could hide the mutation until 1: the files are updated, or 2: a user makes a custom version of that décor for that particular mutation. A user doesn't have to hide the mutation either, they can keep the mutation and go without the décor if they so choose.

This suggestion isn't just about décor either. Mutations like piebald can hide a particular part of the lion or ruin an illusion, but are valuable and so no one will just get rid of the mutation. This would be an option to help players with any sort of mutation based problem that doesn't have to do with death by fatal mutation.

If I'm not answering what you asked feel free to restate what you said, because to be honest I don't understand completely, but I don't want to just say 'I don't get it' and move on.



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shadowqueen (#77712)

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Posted on
2017-06-30 23:08:08
Is it just me, or do the images not load?



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Divine (#86475)

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Posted on
2017-06-30 23:09:46
I'll try to fix it as soon as I'm back on my computer.



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shadowqueen (#77712)

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2017-06-30 23:10:54
It might just be me, though - my grandma's internet isn't the best. x)



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Fakelamb {Side} (#12714)

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Posted on
2017-07-17 18:59:01
bumping bc i'd love for something like this to be implemented



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sheepguts (#112546)

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Posted on
2017-07-17 21:44:42
you could just use the safou fruit, in your case.
still, support.



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Fakelamb {Side} (#12714)

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Posted on
2017-07-17 21:48:11
but that gets rid of the mutation completely, this is for
people who still want the mutation on their lion, they just
want the lion to be visible past their (for example) achromia,
piebald, melanism, etc. since those block the looks of the lion



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Anonymous (#44152)

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Posted on
2017-07-18 18:09:24
https://www.lioden.com/topic.php?id=304429257001 (an item for this has been suggested)



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Posted on
2023-03-17 14:13:52
Hello,

After reviewing this topic, we have determined that it is different enough from this suggestion that players were previously redirected to. As a result, we have unlocked this topic. We apologize for the confusion and encourage players to continue pledging their support for this suggestion if they wish to do so.

Thank you!



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Marten|any prns|g2
DF nrlc (#268280)

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Posted on
2023-03-18 17:53:43
i was thinking that I'd like something like this too! cuz like, maybe somebody wants to have say, primal cubs from their king, but they dont really like how one of their markings doesn't show up as clearly on the stubby tail, and would rather just have it look like a normal male but still be able to pass primal normally. or for something like piebald (heavy), it's hard to see what the markings underneath look like, and that puts at least me off of studding to them. mutations often mess with the looks of a lion, and while this is desirable usually, other times it isn't.
Definitely I support this!



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siren (#256397)

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Posted on
2023-06-15 22:38:52
I disagree. Just use the wardrobe feature



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☀moonless☀ (#234246)

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Posted on
2023-06-15 22:55:12
I see this suggestion is very old, but I hope it gets considered again.
As much as I love the visuals of plenty mutations we have, especially a lot of the passable muts are not posable or have unique linework. This not only makes it difficult to decorate a lot of your lions (without relying on custom decors), but a lot of bases and markings just look better on posed lions.
As much as I like my dorsal king, I would trade them in for a posed lion with punk decor at any time if it means they keep their mutation.

I imagine such an item could work just like the lab test frog.



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Edited on 15/06/23 @ 22:57:02 by Ranga (#234246)

JustO- G2NetherEcho (#184081)


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Posted on
2024-01-01 19:35:37
I'm here because I had a mod misunderstand my question and they told me that I could apply a lab test frog to my Smilus king and be able to give it a tigers eye and it would be posed as a female adolescent! But turns out it just made my king invisible and I freaked out! I really wanted to have a passable mutation without having something block my kings marking design (with like a pie or patch) and still be in adolescent female pose as it looks best in that pose! Because it really showcases the markings! So I came searching and this is what I want! I JUST want to be able to showcase the design I came up with in the pose I like best and be able to have the DECOR I want and STILL enjoy the chances of primal cubs 😩 I don't want to lose the mutation all together I JUST want my king to look how I want it to!!



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