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2017-09-16 02:31:17
Are you more into mane shapes? Then the Mane Genetics Thread is here for you

Want to check out a particular combo quickly? Use ctrl + f and type its name, or use the "search on site" option if you are using a cellphone :)



Wiki entry about Combo Bases

This began as a way to share theories about possible combinations, but then things got way bigger than expected. A lot of people have invested a lot of currency in the scrying stone to see if we were right about combos, and here is the result :D

But wait... What are combo bases?



When you breed two lions with the right combination of bases, their cubs roll a further, extra chance that can result in a third, new base, a "combo" base. Each combo base has its own requirements, and these bases often ignore the set genetic rules: for example, the Cairngorm combo base (Black Light Solid Special genetics) can be obtained by breeding a Celestial lion (Black Dark Countershaded Special genetics) and a Cocoa lioness (Black Medium Countershaded Rare genetics). Most combo bases can be passed down as long as one parent has it and further requirements are met if there are any, with the exception of Pulsar and Temporal.

*Since the 12th October update, cubs that have triggered the original combo bases - Cairngorm, Citrine, Madagascar or Qahir - have a 50% chance of getting their respective mane color, and these can be inherited like any other mane color!

Right now there are two different types of combo bases: "standard" combos and "factor" combos. Factor ones can be obtined by breeding any of the bases that make up the combo, but standard ones can be obtained by more than one combination of bases that are assembled into two different groups. The combo can trigger as long as the parents have bases that belong to a different combo group (not to be mistaken by the genetic color group).

*Note: While some of the following standard combo tables have been completed, there may be some combinations that remain undiscovered yet.

Standard combos:





Arabica

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Arabica by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Black



  • Buttercream

  • Buttermilk






Asiatic

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Asiatic by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Dun

  • Gray



  • Cream

  • White






Black Rose

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Black Rose by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Cinnabar



  • Jet

  • Obsidian

  • Onyx






Cairngorm

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Cairngorm by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Celestial

  • Ice

  • Sidereal

  • Skyward



  • Cocoa

  • Ethereal

  • Pearl

  • Slate






Citrine

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Citrine by the almighty Scrying Stone:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Cinnabar

  • Kimanjano

  • Topaz

  • Xanthic



  • Cherry Blossom

  • Fiery

  • Fulvous

  • Sulphur






Cloudburst

This base can only be obtained during wet season; this means the two lions must breed during wet season. Confirmed bases to breed Cloudburst by the almighty Scrying Stone:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Albino



  • Chartreux

  • Korat

  • Maltese






Elysian

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Elisyan by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Ice



  • Divine

  • Ebony






Ember

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Ember by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Blazing

  • Fiery



  • Flint

  • Pewter






Hellebore

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Hellebore by the almighty Scrying Stone:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Lilac



  • Goldenrod

  • Udara






Madagascar

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Madagascar by the almighty Scrying Stone:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Sapela

  • Sepia

  • Shedua

  • Unholy



  • Ivory

  • Nacre

  • Sunset

  • Supernal






Nadir

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Nadir by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Black Rose

  • Ebony



  • Ardor

  • Hellebore

  • Rhodonite






Pulsar

This base can only be obtained via combo during July, but can be passed down by breeding two Pulsar based lions all year around. Confirmed bases to breed Pulsar by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Arctic



  • Anjeer

  • Blazing

  • Inferno

  • Prune






Qahir

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Qahir by the almighty Scrying Stone:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Buff

  • Cameo

  • Hallowed

  • Russet



  • Chartreux

  • Glacial

  • Hematite

  • Opal






Snowflake

This base can only be obtained during wet season; this means the two lions must breed during wet season. Confirmed bases to breed Snowflake by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Albino



  • Arctic

  • Aufeis

  • Frostbitten

  • Glacial

  • Ice






Temporal

This base can only be obtained via combo during October, but can be passed down by breeding two Temporal based lions all year around. Confirmed bases to breed Temporal by the almighty News:
1st base group2nd base group

  • Unholy



  • Bast

  • Sunset




Factor combos:





Gilded

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Gilded by the almighty News:
1st base2nd base3rd base

  • Anubis



  • Bast



  • Seth






Olive

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Olive by the almighty News:
1st base2nd base

  • Caramel



  • Xanthic






Rose Gold

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Rose Gold by the almighty News:
1st base2nd base3rd base

  • Alabaster



  • Sha



  • Velvet






Soul

This base doesn't have additional restrictions. Confirmed bases to breed Soul by the almighty News:
1st base2nd base

  • Ivory



  • Ebony





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Edited on 19/12/19 @ 03:40:35 by Jingle Bere (#84593)

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2018-04-28 04:16:34
It'd made sense for it to be there, it's an applicable base and we're missing some for Hellebore!

Also, this is what I've gotten so far with Lilac x Sunflower:

Black x1
Bisquit x1
Chartreux x1
Chestnut x1
Dark Brown x2
Deira x1
Ducat x1
Dun x2
Eggshell x1
Isabel x1
Liver x1
Pewter x1
Saffron x1
Silver x2
Steele x5
Steerling x5
Sunglow x1
Topaz x1
Zarafshan x1
Zarasa x4
Zarin x1



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2018-04-28 04:18:13
Dang that was the only one I was able to try before I ran out.. maybe it’s on the same side as lilac? But that would be weird



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2018-04-28 04:19:22
It'd made more sense to have the pinkish ones in one side, then the cream/golden ones in the other, no?



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2018-04-28 04:24:26
Totally. Maybe they all pair up?

Try sunflower or Jacinthe with orchid?

I’m gonna work on getting some sb real quick lol. I have to go get cigarettes anyway I may just put some money on my PayPal card :P



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2018-04-28 04:25:32
I'm going to keep trying a bit more with Lilac x Sunflower, there's very few special bases popping up, after all.



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2018-04-28 04:43:44
This is what I've got so far with Lilac x Sunflower:

Albino x14
Black x4
Bisquit x2
Bone x1
Champagne x1
Chartreux x2
Chestnut x4
Dark Brown x8
Deira x1
Dikela x2
Dinar x1
Dove Gray x2
Ducat x6
Dun x11
Eggshell x3
Flint x1
Gray x1
Goldenrod x1
Isabel x2
Jacinthe x1
Jet x1
Korat x1
Lemon x1
Light Golden x1
Lilac x1
Liver x10
Luteo x8
Maltese x1
Ochre x1
Obsidian x2
Rosy Brown x1
Pewter x1
Saffron x9
Silver x7
Silver Gray x3
Steele x11
Steerling x14
Sulphur x1
Sundust x4
Sunflower x3
Sunglow x2
Titanium x1
Topaz x1
Vandal x1
Zarafshan x4
Zarasa x15
Zarbanu x2
Zarin x9
Zer x3

A lot of tries, but new bases keep popping up. I'll take a break and keep going later.



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2018-04-28 05:02:21
i tried Fuchsia x Goldenrod, 25 tries, no Hellebore



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2018-04-28 05:12:07
I just tried sunflower and fuchsia 50+ With nothing

Damn. That would have been a great way for them to make the bases. I’m still gonna try a few......I’m really hoping it’s nkt just lilac and goldenrod, imma be pissed lol



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2018-04-28 05:27:31
Great detective work, dude. I'm thinking we might need to exceed 200+ tries on these; I was scrying earlier to try and get a scry for Soft Rosette from a CONFIRMED pairing - I tried 200 times and it still didn't show up. Sure, it is a rare mark; but I'd have thought the odds might have been higher in terms of scrying results. I approached Katze to see if there is an issue with scrying, and she said nope - all should be well and that it all comes down to luck. Chances are, we could just be getting unlucky streaks.

So with this new theory, I'll probably try and push for 200+ personally. It's a good theory, and it makes sense. If two fail at 200+ I think we can possibly assume that isn't the combination set up, right? And if we strike winners, then we know Shamrock cracked it :D!



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2018-04-28 05:32:50
Those were my thoughts, more or less. Lilac is a medium solid base, then sunflower is a medium countershaded. This means that, in theory, such a pairing could have have anything from dark to light and solid to countershaded from both Golden and Black groups, and that's a lot of possibilities. The same may happen with Goldenrod to a lesser extent with it being medium - especially Orchid which is solid.



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2018-04-28 05:54:57
Oh, guys; also keep an eye out for the new rosettes in your scrying travels! Feel free to log any pairing results here; I'd very much appreciate it :DDD



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Posted on
2018-04-28 06:26:05
200+ tries on a whim for Lilac x Maroon = fail



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2018-04-28 06:26:06
200+ tries on a whim for Lilac x Maroon = fail



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2018-04-28 06:31:16
I like the flower idea. I'm getting confused as to which we've tried already. LOL



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2018-04-28 06:43:40
Ok
Lilac x Jacinthe 100 X -fail



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