Posted by A Gem or Scroll to Erase Heritage

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2018-05-11 18:56:20
I was thinking since there is a sizable community who are very focused on clean-line breeding or first gen breeding and with the changes to chased lionesses, where no one can be sure they'll even reclaim their lionesses after chasing them to cut out their family tree.

I was thinking maybe there could be an alternate option without worry of losing our pretty cubs or getting frustrated that the parent of a beautiful cub is tied up in repeating grandparents or a long busy overwhelming length of names. It could appeal to people who would like to keep their dynasty bit neater and still add fresh blood to a pride.

I'm not saying this item should be cheap and extremely common, it could be an oasis or a gorilla enclave/seasonal item only.

I think it'd be a good option for people on hardmode/clean line breeding or people who would like to start fresh/ neater dynasties but can't bear to chase/destroy their involved lions.

the flavor test could be something like

'The lion gazes into the crystal and within moments, a dazed look crosses their face. When prompted, they do not seem to recall anything of their past...'



This suggestion has 117 supports and 109 NO supports.



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Erik|G1|4.2k|3x ros
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2023-06-11 02:25:55
On top of all the reasons above for no supports, having a heritage wiping item will most likely break the coding of the site and furthermore, this suggestion has already been rejected: https://imgur.com/HNnToow



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[♰] Yharnam (#112370)

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Posted on
2023-06-11 02:32:15
this is reassuring. thanks!



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🗡️ LunarKnight (#151072)


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2023-06-11 02:42:55
Thanks Erik Hyde. I wasn't aware it was already rejected. So happy it'll never happen. ^_^



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🦌Finch_Dane👻 (#276751)

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2024-09-28 10:37:32
I support!!! But unlike other people here who are angry saying "It would mess up the king market!!!" and shit like that, I propose that instead of just fully wiping a lion's heritage, it instead wipes MOST of the heritage and leaves one page behind, their most recent ancestors, along with a note that the lion had their heritage mostly wiped, but at least remember up to their great grandparents. That way someone couldn't just randomly make their heir a g1 and it would be by either being expensive or hard to get in some other way to prevent people from taking advantage of it, I know I'd use it! Like recently, I purchased an adol (labeled as clean) for a decent price and got her today. However, when I checked her (very long) heritage, she was dirty far down the line. Having the option to use an item or an event or smth to clean her heritage down to one page would be great!



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[♰] Yharnam (#112370)

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Posted on
2024-10-01 09:26:11
It is your responsibility as a buyer to double check what you purchase before finalizing. You also could have reported the trade.



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🦌Finch_Dane👻 (#276751)

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2024-10-01 13:18:39
I didn't have that choice. There wasn't a link to the lion in the raffle forum, and my time was limited since I'm in the middle of the blackout at the moment and was visiting someone who still had internet, so I didn't have much time to try and search through their pride. Also, the person was extremely apologetic and offered to refund me for the purchase, but I refused since I understood it was merely a mistake (Again, the heritage was long so they could have easily missed the inbreeding if they were rushing through, especially since the inbreeding was far into the heritage as well) and it would be wrong to report a simple mistake.

Sometimes, things don't work out exactly as planned, so it would be nice to have something available to us that can help mend the mistakes made.



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[♰] Yharnam (#112370)

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2024-10-01 17:57:38
Alright. Without trying to sound like an ass here, more or less, proposing an item to 'fix' these problems that're user error would come at the cost of crushing months or years work of hard work for the hundreds or thousands of us who maintain clean lineages through diligence and hard work.

Yes, it sucks that happened. But I always try to look at these projects from the perspective of how it will affect a large number of people. People will definitely benefit from this, but it will come at the cost of countless peoples' projects and income.



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🦌Finch_Dane👻 (#276751)

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2024-10-02 08:05:44
My question is, how? Like I offered, if it only wipes down to one remaining page, then they won't be super short gen, and it can help plenty of people without severely impacting others. Also, if an event, it could be one lion per year per account, and if in the form of an item, making it rather expensive would work as well. It wouldn't be overused unless it were an item, and even then, it would only be by the people who've already put years into this game and have hundreds of GB to spend whenever they please, who likely wouldn't need it much anyways since they've put so much time into the game.

Unless I'm missing a key point here, something like this really doesn't seem like it will be all that impactful to anyone other than those who use it. Some lions have nearly a hundred pages, nobody wants them, so this could simply help reset them so people actually want them again without making them first gen.



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2024-10-02 08:55:01
I'll never support a heritage wipe item, however I'd like to touch upon the partial heritage wipe as it was suggested in another thread a couple years ago.

I replied to it, stating why a partial wipe wouldn't work but I'll state the main reason here as well.

Even if a partial wipe were to get rid of all but one page, clicking upon any of the remaining ancestors in the heritage would show the original heritage. Meaning the lion with the partial wipe would still be dirty/inbred as the heritage would only be partially hidden on them.





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🦌Finch_Dane👻 (#276751)

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Posted on
2024-10-02 09:02:11
Think of it like this. When you chase a lioness, they loose their entire heritage. If there were an event where we could do practically the same, but merely leave behind their most recent heritage, THAT lion would no longer be inbred. They would likely be less valuable than pure blooded clan lions, but more valuable than dirties.



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Kenku [G1 Realistic
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2024-10-13 08:04:40
I love having short Gen lions, but since it doesn’t have any actual effect on gameplay to have a long heritage or inbreeding, there is no real reason to do this.
I know it can be a preference thing, and clean and short heritage lions sell better and get more stud requests, but that’s still a personal project sort of thing.
We can already effectively erase the heritage in a king by putting whoever we want as our king, even if they’re inbred 87 times, and then replacing them with a Groupie. Suddenly you have a G1 beauty! The only caveat is that if your previous king was 8000 stats, you don’t keep that. But I think that’s fair. I think it’s important that a person does have to put in the work to have a highly desirable lion, rather than buying one off someone else who put in hours and tons of currency - possibly real and virtual - and just waving a wand and making it just as if not more valuable.

The only way something like that could be “fairly” priced for the people who do put in the work themselves is if the item in the Oasis was upwards of 1000gb - which is obscenely expensive and therefore not any use to add to the game.



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