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Summary:

So, there is 3 options as to get rid of your lionesses without a cost. Chase Lion Away, Kill Lion, or Send Lion To Nature Reserve, these are listed at the bottom of every lion page you own. If i am wrong correct me; Chased Lionesses can be re-claimed in Explore. In my case, even with Dreamboats i haven't ever encountered one chased lioness. I know a few of you have, good for you. My point is your chances are low either way. Also i am not talking about NCL ladies at all, so please do not comment on NCLs/CRB'd NCL's as i am not including them in any way, they can stay in explore XD(Keep in mind ill only be talking about Adult Lionesses)

My Proposal:

I believe that every option can have a option to "reclaim" a Chased or Sent Away, or Killed lioness.
See Below:



Chase Lion Away
If you no longer want this lioness in your pride then you'll need to chase her away! If she has any young cubs, she will take them with her.

Be aware that this is permanent - you will not be able to find her again!


The Option for Claiming(Proposed by me):

- When you chase a lioness, they leave and you cant get them back. But to claim a random lioness that was chased, there could be like a Watering Hole OR the Giving Tree where all the lionesses gather after being chased; Kinda like how we have The Giving Tree for Abandoned Cubs. It could be located where the Raffle Lioness is OR under the Giving Tree as a weekly to monthly claiming. So, it could go like the following:

"[Name] wanders about the Giving Tree, noticing a few lionesses that seem to be looking after the adols and cubs that are here"
Button: [Claim a Lioness?]

- And this is where the claiming comes into play, you only get one chance a week(OR month) to try and claim a randomly selected lioness.




Kill Lion
If you no longer want this lioness in your pride and you don't want to chase her away, you can kill her! This is a despicable evil however and will come with a karma hit. Not to mention, if she has any young cubs, they will sadly die too!

Be aware that this is permanent - you will not be able to revive her!

They will also not appear in your dynasty. You will lose 5 karma and 5% energy.


The Option for Claiming(Proposed by me):

- This would not be much of a "Claim the Lioness" and more like "Claim a Mark". This could be located in that little empty space between Leaderboards, Search, and Clans(I realize now there is a "adventuring" tier there that only active in July so this option could be there year round). You could go to this place and talk to the Spirits of Lions that were slaughtered by their own kings. The following is how i thought it could go:

"After a tiring walk up The Spirit's Hill, you look around and see a pile of random items... They seem to be Offerings..? Will you leave a offering?"

Button: [Yes] Select Item : Ex.Rib Bone(Could we get a different item suggestion? maybe add a use to a item or Herb that is a bit more rare?)

"As soon as you place down the item and take a step back, a rush of wind almost pushes you back down the hill. Several Spirits appear before you. You must select one to communicate with.."

Buttons: [Option 1] [Option 2] [Option 3]

"The Lion Spirit seems to smile as you chose it, the others fade away with sorrowful expressions."

- Now you get a randomly selected marking from the Lion Spirit, to apply one of the markings this Lion Spirit carries to a select Pride Member. Its kinda like that one Event where you can speak to one of your past ancestors to receive a marking from; though this of course(As recomended) would only be once a month to every 2 months.



Send Lion To Nature Reserve
If you no longer want this lioness in your pride and you don't want to chase her away or kill her, you can send her away to a nature reserve! This is a kind act however and will come with a karma boost. If she has any young cubs, they will of course go with her!

Be aware that this is permanent - you will not be able to get her back!

They will also not appear in your dynasty. You will gain 5 karma and lose 5% energy.


The Option for Claiming(Proposed by me):

- This one was difficult for me to think about, whether it could be the same as the Chase option, or it could be different. I did decide it needed to be different.
So, it could be like a Explore Territory that has to be unlocked;By reaching Dreamboat Impression Level. Of course it would be located in the Exploring Section of the map.... I mean.. You are sending them to a Nature Reserve. So after unlocking it, a option will appear below your Explore Map as "Visit the Nature Reserve" or "What is this hole doing here?"(second option is to match whats below).

"While exploring, you happen to stumble upon a large metal net with what looks to be shiny trees holding it up, it has a small hole in it. You squeeze through this small hole and see a bachelorette pride of lionesses. You approach them..."

Button: Claim

A randomly selected lioness pops up and the claiming begins. You will only get one chance at claiming.Though this one could be less frequant than the Chased option.





Extra Details brought up in the replies and suggestions!:

- Regarding the Stored Data, i was thinking that it would be every 24 hours(unless the option was monhly, then only those for that day of the month would be stored and then deleted after rollover) that the data would be stored. Dont wanna make the game all f*cky now would we?
- Regarding the misunderstandings. I posted this 2 years ago without much extra thought to any of these so i did not make a few things clear(also i found a few things in here cringey ;-; bare with me) and now with a more mature mindset, i believe this is now a better explanation now then it was yesterday(or if your from the furture, awhile back XD) and much more thought through.

With this topic "revised", i am more excited to hear from others and get more suggestions! If you make a suggestion, or give feed back ;-; thank you so much and have a wonderful day/night!

Community Ideas:

KingMufasa34 (#105110) - "Well, i support. My king is a dreamboat but i just found chased lionesses twice in game, and claimed one. I just think that the Nature Reserve could be changed to impression level... Dreambot or at least Impressive. It's not hard to get impression. "

dray (#42420) - "I love the chased-to-watering hole idea, and the fact that it builds on the special lioness raffle. Maybe only dreamboats can enter the area?

The killed = markings idea sounds interesting, but I agree with @Drakel; if someone's killed or sent their lioness to the reserve it's probably not just because of karma. Borrowing a marking instead of the entire female is a cool idea, though. As a separate suggestion, where the markings are randomized and not reliant on storing old lioness data, that might be a thing. (OR, the data from killed lionesses is only stored for 3 days before being wiped, similar to abandoned cubs?)

The nature reserve seems too much like chased option. What about stats or personality switches instead? That mirrors the vain/evil oriented markings focus from the kill option in that 'good deeds are important' stats focus? "


Cigonai (#72734) - Has a very good idea and a long comment! Did not want to make the page to long so check it out!

Please let me know your ideas, I can add them to this with you credited. <3 (ALSO, Admins please let me know if this is the correct place, Thank You!)



This suggestion has 169 supports and 39 NO supports.



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Edited on 24/04/20 @ 20:30:33 by LionLover(Clean, 1000+Stats) (#36443)

Drakel [Ebony Boyo] (#12615)

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2018-06-28 12:02:19
I don't think this is needed? I feel like I see chased girls fairly often, though my boy is dreamboat so maybe that boosts chances a bit? I'm not opposed either, though. No harm in getting one free chance to claim a chased, although I feel like in this case the girl shouldn't have any chance to be posed or CRB'd or whatnot. Save those odds for wild encounters.

I'm not a fan of being able to claim killed or reserved ladies though. Killed and reserved ladies at the moment are just deleted, saving the site the server space needed to hold them. Also, while people kill and reserve a lot of ladies for the karma points, they also possibly do because they don't want the lady to be available. As such, I don't think they should be reincorporated into claiming.



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2018-06-28 12:55:36
Personally, i have not encountered 1 chased gal on my time in Lioden lol but perhaps you're right. My male is not Dreamboat, but even when it was implanted my other males were dreamboat. Besides the point, you raise a fair point. I mean i only id a option for all because of my own knowledge; that most lions are karma fodder because there isnt enough interest in them, so why not get karma for them? But seeing your point of view it also makes sense to only have an option for the Chase option because, well they are just chased for nothing.


(Btw, your not claiming Killed lionesses("Mark for a Mark") ;-; how can you bring them back from the dead?)



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Luh_The_Queen (#105110)

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2018-07-05 15:40:39
Well, i support. My king is a dreamboat but i just found chased lionesses twice in game, and claimed one. I just think that the Nature Reserve could be changed to impression level... Dreambot or at least Impressive. It's not hard to get impression.

It's very hard find chased lionesses and the karma boost will continue. A player can chase a lioness, and another player find her and reclaim. I know that trades exist but this is a way to get rid of lionesses you just can't sell or wanna use as karma fodders and another player get free lionesses without loss of energy.



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2018-07-05 17:03:50
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2019-07-06 07:14:16
I love the chased-to-watering hole idea, and the fact that it builds on the special lioness raffle. Maybe only dreamboats can enter the area?

The killed = markings idea sounds interesting, but I agree with @Drakel; if someone's killed or sent their lioness to the reserve it's probably not just because of karma. Borrowing a marking instead of the entire female is a cool idea, though. As a separate suggestion, where the markings are randomized and not reliant on storing old lioness data, that might be a thing. (OR, the data from killed lionesses is only stored for 3 days before being wiped, similar to abandoned cubs?)

The nature reserve seems too much like chased option. What about stats or personality switches instead? That mirrors the vain/evil oriented markings focus from the kill option in that 'good deeds are important' stats focus?



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2020-04-06 23:59:26
sorry, but no support. people chase/reserve/kill lionesses mainly because they are potatoes that nobody wants. in explore, there is a choice to not claim the lioness, but here, you can't see what you get. i'd imagine if this became a thing, 90% of lionesses reclaimed would be potatos.



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2020-04-07 00:12:04
@★ Ivystar [1/9] (#53539) - Not all are potatoes! I've actually seen reclaimed chased lionesses that get put up for sale that have quite a few rare marks and special bases. So that's why I thought about this for a long time(Actually re thought this a little as well). But I do get where you are coming from, there are also so many potatoes; so what would be the point? I just think this is just a nice little extra feature, like how you can reclaim lionesses in Explore, or claim a chased cub/adol at the Giving Tree. I have personally sent many "colour bombs" and special based lionesses to the nature reserve and killed many, just because I didn't feel like setting up trades and selling them(also just for karma purposes).

Also, maybe I didn't explain above clear enough, I should add in that it would be like claiming a lioness in explore. Once a day you would get the chance to try claim a lioness from the Nature Reserve. I hope this helps! Have a good night and thank you for feedback!



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2020-04-07 00:35:47
hm, i get your point!v i'm still not sure about it, but i'd be willing to reconsider supporting if the idea gets revised.



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Thalath {Offline} (#41669)

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2020-04-07 00:39:28
No. If anything, more lions need to be deleted from the game, and claimable NCLs should stay rare.

"- Now you just select a marking from your own lion(a lion from your pride or your main male), to switch with one of the markings this Lion Spirit carries. "

And especially no to this. This is a lot like the marking changer suggestion. Breed only marks should never be able to applied to another lion -- RMA being the only exception because you have no control over what you get and it's incredibly rare in the first place.



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Edited on 07/04/20 @ 00:43:31 by Thalath {online} (#41669)

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2020-04-07 05:30:12
No support- if I'm killing/reserving a lion instead of chasing it, it's because I don't want people to get it. I've been working on a project for over a year now and do not want people turning up with lionesses one mark off of my king before I'm done after I explicitly chose the 'yeet from server space forever' option instead of chasing. Or, inversely, if I'm killing NCLs for karma, I don't think anyone wants to find one of those as a Chased.

If I have a pretty double Rosette that isn't selling? Sure yeah I'll chase it. If I'm not chasing? There's a reason I don't want someone running into it in Explore- don't remove our options to a) earn Karma easily without burdening servers and b) remove lions from the game permanently on our own terms.

Same goes for the marking thing- there's another thread on the first/second page atm where users underline just how bad an idea it is in the comments- and as a rare slot breeder myself, I absolutely agree with them.

This also poses a problem for server space, as Thalath pointed out as well- there's a reason two of the options involve permanent deletion, putting every single lioness into limbo before either recreating it or deleting it (as opposed to just Chased gals as of right now), you'll be putting a lot of strain on the servers. The poor thing's died once, let's not make a repeat more likely X3

The watering hole sounds nice in concept, but I'd limit it to be either a once-a-day feature like claiming cubs from the Tree or include a fairly steep fee. A lot of nicer Chased ladies can sell for a good amount of SB, even GB, so allowing users to claim multiple will quickly cause a mess- if you want a cheap Chased gal or multiple, get to Dreamboat, use Catnip and claim them.



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Edited on 07/04/20 @ 05:33:23 by Agryo [Project] (#70050)

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2020-04-24 19:36:03
I support the chased. But the rest not so much. I do very much enjoy the chance to "claim" a chased just like the cubs on the tree. Was actually thinking of this idea myself.

BUT, once a day or once a week. As it is a chased female, with or without heritage. Even more if its without.
And, the storage is an issue. So is wanting to actually get the lion out of the game if you're doing a special project yourself, which is where killing/nature reserve can come in. Besides, nature reserves have the chance of running into humans, which with the poaching event can cause an issue, as we attack humans, etc in explore.

Yet this would be a great idea for new comers, as well as people starting again. I even hardly ever come across chased in explore, in both of my accounts. So I know how it feels, my sister plays as well and constantly comes across them, on just one account.

Another note: I do like the idea of the markings on the killed ones. But it would be awfully like random marking app, but instead switching. Which could easily be taken advantage of with killed lionesses, due to them having more of a chance to have breed only/special markings than RMA gives.
Such as rosette or sunset markings, there may be a mass of them and make it harder to sell them.

But do love this!



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2020-04-24 20:36:50
@Cigonai (#72734) - Thannk you! I just added your name, I did not want to make the page to long!


Also it has been "revised"!!



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2022-04-02 15:03:09
I think the kill = random marking is a cool concept, although if it were implemented, I think it would be a good idea to make it where instead of only one option there could be three (or one) but you would know what kind of marking it was (like say you talk to a spirit and they offer you "cheetah spots") so that way you can choose to accept it or not so it won't clash with your kings aesthetic. if there were multiple options Youd only be able to choose one. Also, the opacity can be customizable, but it would have to be lower than 30% or 50% (because the ghost gave it to Ya and it's like a faint reminder of them). Just my opinion that's all



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2022-04-22 07:43:27
I'm like- I think it was slightly impressive and for me chased lionesses are like- 1/4 lionesses. Pretty common for me



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